Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike
While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.
"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.
"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."
Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.
"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.
"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."
(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...
Disgusting isn't it?
And why is this not on a sidebar....we have fluff crap on sidebars but hardly ever anything on illegals or border issues.
That is no different than CNN coloring the news.
Interesting comments by Malkin....this could very easily be going on. Have to see where it shakes out.
No actually I'm not. I have yet to see much of anything coming out of Washington DC in the past 10 years that impresses me as being good for this nation from either party.
That graphic cracks me up every time I see it.
Excuse me?
Our government better think very carefully before stepping across that line.
You added the parenthetical (MINUTEMEN), didn't you?
This debate about whether or not Bush was referring to the Minutemen as vigilantes keeps coming up. The fact that he did not specifically refer to them as the Minutemen, even though that is obviously the group being discussed, is taken as proof to some that he was instead referring to Charles Bronson, or space aliens, or something equally implausible.
What would you put in the parentheses? Elmer Fudd?
Did you know that an illegal alien was shot and killed on the border over the weekend?
I absolutely agree. And as far as the timing of this, it's also odd that "all of a sudden" they "found" these reports.
No. I'll wait for your point.
*sigh* I know.
Amen, Junior.
A cut and paste of something I wrote a few weeks ago, Steve (and the beat goes on)...
Passions run high when a perception of deep betrayal, injustice, and the instinct to survive are a part of the mix. And I dont believe any informed conservative can cite a time in his life when all three were more a part of his daily thoughts and fears than they are now.
It would appear that, even here on this forum, those who still possess sufficient insight to comprehend that we are under an unprecedented attack by a malevolent invading army, and who exhibit sufficient courage to declare that those in leadership positions in Washington who are doing nothing about it are betraying this republic, find themselves in a shrinking and ill-treated minority that is consistently smeared, called radical, alarmist, hostile to Latinos, and a myriad of other undeserved labels.
Prudence is not called for in the current political climate. Courage is.
One senate Republican aide, gutsy enough to call a spade a spade, recently observed that there is a paralyzing fear of the illegal-immigrant lobby in Washington. It matters not that the large majority of American citizens believes that illegal immigrants should not be offered any kind of amnesty, and that an even larger majority wants to erect a security fence along our southern border. Representative government appears to have given way to rule by special interest and the amassing of political power.
Its time for our leadership in Washington to stop their incessant, self-promoting and power-mongering, mute their phony political pre-election posturing, and start leading. And if they will not, its time for the citizenry to do something about the malaise at the top.
We are not calling for a revolution. We are begging our leadership to lead, so as to avoid one. Criminals are streaming across our border. Eleven million of them are living among us. They are arrogantly demanding rights without responsibilities. They are staking out illegitimate claims to our homeland. They are looking at two-plus centuries of success and prosperity, built on the blood and sweat of those who came here with a respect for our laws and a willingness to shed their blood, and work from dawn to dusk and they are scheming to steal those hard-won successes and rewards, and to bring this republic to her knees in the process.
Its parasitic. Its wicked. Its unjust.
I, for one, am tired of debates about racism, legal technicalities, economic indicators, which party is doing more for the middle class, and the rest of the election-year issues that have been fabricated, or conveniently politically magnified beyond rationality You want to do something for me, leaders in Washington? Stop creating issues and problems so that you can get re-elected on promises to solve them. And start staring down the genuine evils that threaten to erase our national sovereignty.
Stop the interminable debates about how to deal with those illegal immigrants who have broken the law and are working in the U.S., and obtaining education, health care, court costs, legal representation, etc. at no cost, while the American taxpayer must pay obscenely burdensome taxes to obtain the same for his family. That criminal behavior and resultant inequity must be identified, acknowledged and corrected. But we face a much more pressing problem that needs to be solved now. And every day that you persist in political posturing simply serves to render the problem even more deadly. We must stop the flow of illegal immigrants. We must close our southern border.
Although unfair, and continually sapping our national fiscal strength, its not the illegals effect on our economy that is killing us. Dollars and cents are never the bottom line in a free society. Liberty and sovereignty are. And both precious entities are growing ever more precarious in America 2006.
If a deadly toxin is seeping into your house, in higher concentrations each day, do you sit in your livingroom debating among family members how you should attempt to neutralize its toxicity so as to avoid eventual death for you all? And do you quibble incessantly over who should have the power to make such decisions?
Or do you first locate, and seal up, the source of the leak?
Never did I believe that I would live to see the day when the leadership of this country would place more importance on poll numbers, phony economic considerations, special interests, and the desire to win re-election, than on the sovereignty and security of America. And I believed it even less likely that that disgusting and obscene state of affairs would occur with a republican occupying the White House, and republicans in the majority in the house and senate.
Thanks to politicians (both republican and democrat) without character or conscience, obsessively focused on cheap labor and more votes (read: the amassing of personal and ideological power), media that hold in disdain the America that once was, and racist pressure groups, our republic sits on the brink of a terrible abyss from which, for the first time in our history, only the American citizen can pull her back.
God bless (and we must support) the Minutemen.
dont be surprised if, some day in the not too distant future, the Statue of Libertys torch is replaced with a sign reading It Worked Fine at First Florence King
~ joanie
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Is that the one where someone said they shot themselves? I thought I saw something posted about that earlier (when you brought it up, I think?)
My "point" is that is who I would fill in the parenthesis with - maybe it's just me - but the "hunting" part kinda gave that away ; )
Prepare for disappointment.
and Lou Dobbs is now a Marxist I hear.....lord a mercy .
I don't worship Dobbs anymore than Krauthammer or Barnes or Kristol or any of them but a Marxist...that's amazing
I have not seen any news story that investigators suspect a suicide.
Assuming other posters are irrational idiots is ususlly a mistake. I think the point of those with whom you don't find favor, was more about the over wrought mind set some posters displayed, without waiting for the facts to play out, than the merits of Bush's immigration policies per se.
I am sure upon calm reflection, and with a fair mind, you will realize that what I am suggesting might just have some merit.
Wow. Excellent post.
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