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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: joanie-f; Czar; nicmarlo; JustPiper; eazdzit

Disgusting isn't it?

And why is this not on a sidebar....we have fluff crap on sidebars but hardly ever anything on illegals or border issues.

That is no different than CNN coloring the news.


1,381 posted on 05/09/2006 8:31:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: JustPiper

Interesting comments by Malkin....this could very easily be going on. Have to see where it shakes out.


1,382 posted on 05/09/2006 8:31:22 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Texasforever
You are easily impressed.

No actually I'm not. I have yet to see much of anything coming out of Washington DC in the past 10 years that impresses me as being good for this nation from either party.

1,383 posted on 05/09/2006 8:31:43 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: wardaddy

That graphic cracks me up every time I see it.


1,384 posted on 05/09/2006 8:31:51 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: IrishMike
"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Excuse me?

Our government better think very carefully before stepping across that line.

1,385 posted on 05/09/2006 8:32:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Godebert

You added the parenthetical (MINUTEMEN), didn't you?


1,386 posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:41 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Godebert

This debate about whether or not Bush was referring to the Minutemen as vigilantes keeps coming up. The fact that he did not specifically refer to them as the Minutemen, even though that is obviously the group being discussed, is taken as proof to some that he was instead referring to Charles Bronson, or space aliens, or something equally implausible.


1,387 posted on 05/09/2006 8:34:23 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: clawrence3
You added the parenthetical (MINUTEMEN), didn't you?

What would you put in the parentheses? Elmer Fudd?

1,388 posted on 05/09/2006 8:36:10 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

Did you know that an illegal alien was shot and killed on the border over the weekend?


1,389 posted on 05/09/2006 8:36:43 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: La Enchiladita
I believe State Dept. should be pursuing Mexico's aggressive attempts to influence U.S. internal affairs. THAT is the serious part.

I absolutely agree. And as far as the timing of this, it's also odd that "all of a sudden" they "found" these reports.

1,390 posted on 05/09/2006 8:37:06 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3
Did you know that an illegal alien was shot and killed on the border over the weekend?

No. I'll wait for your point.

1,391 posted on 05/09/2006 8:38:12 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: wardaddy; joanie-f; Czar; nicmarlo; JustPiper; eazdzit
That is no different than CNN coloring the news.

*sigh* I know.

1,392 posted on 05/09/2006 8:38:55 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Junior_G; Minuteman23
... because even if true, it is just a small part of a much larger problem. A lot of bozos on this forum are acting like Bush is somehow vindicated on his immigration stance if this turns out to be true, hoping that others might be stupid enough to believe them.

Amen, Junior.

A cut and paste of something I wrote a few weeks ago, Steve (and the beat goes on)...

Passions run high when a perception of deep betrayal, injustice, and the instinct to survive are a part of the mix. And I don’t believe any informed conservative can cite a time in his life when all three were more a part of his daily thoughts and fears than they are now.

It would appear that, even here on this forum, those who still possess sufficient insight to comprehend that we are under an unprecedented attack by a malevolent invading army, and who exhibit sufficient courage to declare that those in ‘leadership’ positions in Washington who are doing nothing about it are betraying this republic, find themselves in a shrinking and ill-treated minority that is consistently smeared, called radical, alarmist, hostile to Latinos, and a myriad of other undeserved labels.

Prudence is not called for in the current political climate. Courage is.

One senate Republican aide, gutsy enough to call a spade a spade, recently observed that ‘there is a paralyzing fear of the illegal-immigrant lobby’ in Washington. It matters not that the large majority of American citizens believes that illegal immigrants should not be offered any kind of amnesty, and that an even larger majority wants to erect a security fence along our southern border. Representative government appears to have given way to rule by special interest and the amassing of political power.

It’s time for our ‘leadership’ in Washington to stop their incessant, self-promoting and power-mongering, mute their phony political pre-election posturing, and start leading. And if they will not, it’s time for the citizenry to do something about the malaise at the top.

We are not calling for a revolution. We are begging our leadership to lead, so as to avoid one. Criminals are streaming across our border. Eleven million of them are living among us. They are arrogantly demanding rights without responsibilities. They are staking out illegitimate claims to our homeland. They are looking at two-plus centuries of success and prosperity, built on the blood and sweat of those who came here with a respect for our laws and a willingness to shed their blood, and work from dawn to dusk … and they are scheming to steal those hard-won successes and rewards, and to bring this republic to her knees in the process.

It’s parasitic. It’s wicked. It’s unjust.

I, for one, am tired of debates about racism, legal technicalities, economic indicators, which party is ‘doing more’ for the middle class, and the rest of the election-year ‘issues’ that have been fabricated, or conveniently politically magnified beyond rationality … You want to do something for me, ‘leaders’ in Washington? Stop creating issues and problems so that you can get re-elected on promises to solve them. And start staring down the genuine evils that threaten to erase our national sovereignty.

Stop the interminable debates about how to deal with those illegal immigrants who have broken the law and are working in the U.S., and obtaining education, health care, court costs, legal representation, etc. at no cost, while the American taxpayer must pay obscenely burdensome taxes to obtain the same for his family. That criminal behavior and resultant inequity must be identified, acknowledged and corrected. But we face a much more pressing problem that needs to be solved now. And every day that you persist in political posturing simply serves to render the problem even more deadly. We must stop the flow of illegal immigrants. We must close our southern border.

Although unfair, and continually sapping our national fiscal strength, it’s not the illegals’ effect on our economy that is killing us. Dollars and cents are never the bottom line in a free society. Liberty and sovereignty are. And both precious entities are growing ever more precarious in America 2006.

If a deadly toxin is seeping into your house, in higher concentrations each day, do you sit in your livingroom debating among family members how you should attempt to neutralize its toxicity so as to avoid eventual death for you all? And do you quibble incessantly over who should have the power to make such decisions?

Or do you first locate, and seal up, the source of the leak?

Never did I believe that I would live to see the day when the leadership of this country would place more importance on poll numbers, phony economic considerations, special interests, and the desire to win re-election, than on the sovereignty and security of America. And I believed it even less likely that that disgusting and obscene state of affairs would occur with a republican occupying the White House, and republicans in the majority in the house and senate.

Thanks to politicians (both republican and democrat) without character or conscience, obsessively focused on cheap labor and more votes (read: the amassing of personal and ideological power), media that hold in disdain the America that once was, and racist pressure groups, our republic sits on the brink of a terrible abyss from which, for the first time in our history, only the American citizen can pull her back.

God bless (and we must support) the Minutemen.

… don’t be surprised if, some day in the not too distant future, the Statue of Liberty’s torch is replaced with a sign reading ‘It Worked Fine at First’ … Florence King

~ joanie ….

1,393 posted on 05/09/2006 8:39:43 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: clawrence3; Junior_G

Is that the one where someone said they shot themselves? I thought I saw something posted about that earlier (when you brought it up, I think?)


1,394 posted on 05/09/2006 8:39:53 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Junior_G

My "point" is that is who I would fill in the parenthesis with - maybe it's just me - but the "hunting" part kinda gave that away ; )


1,395 posted on 05/09/2006 8:39:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Junior_G

Prepare for disappointment.


1,396 posted on 05/09/2006 8:40:06 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: nicmarlo

and Lou Dobbs is now a Marxist I hear.....lord a mercy .

I don't worship Dobbs anymore than Krauthammer or Barnes or Kristol or any of them but a Marxist...that's amazing


1,397 posted on 05/09/2006 8:40:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: nicmarlo

I have not seen any news story that investigators suspect a suicide.


1,398 posted on 05/09/2006 8:41:02 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Junior_G
A lot of bozos on this forum are acting like Bush is somehow vindicated on his immigration stance if this turns out to be true,

Assuming other posters are irrational idiots is ususlly a mistake. I think the point of those with whom you don't find favor, was more about the over wrought mind set some posters displayed, without waiting for the facts to play out, than the merits of Bush's immigration policies per se.

I am sure upon calm reflection, and with a fair mind, you will realize that what I am suggesting might just have some merit.

1,399 posted on 05/09/2006 8:41:56 PM PDT by Torie
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To: joanie-f

Wow. Excellent post.


1,400 posted on 05/09/2006 8:43:25 PM PDT by Junior_G
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