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I'm more upset with Conservatives than I am with George W. Bush

Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84

If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?

If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?

If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?

Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.

And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.

So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.

If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?

George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.

If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.

I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: notaweinerbot; notstuckonstupid; patronizing; reaganhaters
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To: inquest

But do you have the votes? Do you really have enough "pure" conservatives out there who are just waiting for their knight to appear? Last year Bush tried to reform social security, but the public said, NO. There are too many middle-class conservatives who have planned their retirement on a government pension. There are too many "conservatives" who want their own bridge to nowhere. There are too many who grumble about the tax code but don't want their favoite loophole closed. So, do you have the votes?


81 posted on 05/08/2006 7:23:42 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Revolting cat!

I better be on that list at least twice, I worked hard to get on it.


82 posted on 05/08/2006 7:24:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I hope you would RATHER try to work to get a conservative elected within the established party.

It's certainly possible to do both. In fact, the threat of a third party defection can provide an incentive to choose conservatives in the primaries.

83 posted on 05/08/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: mwfsu84
Well stated. But unfortunately you're preaching to a lot of folks here whose only issues are abortion, homosexuality, creationism or demanding Bush round up 20 million illegal Latinos within the next two to three weeks. Anything outside of that, like the war on terror takes a very distant back seat. Some voted for Bush, not because he was eminently more effective at protecting the country than any of his opponents, but because they believed he could get the gay marriage ban amendment passed. Since he will not get that accomplished, they have already written him off in favor of Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid.
84 posted on 05/08/2006 7:24:25 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: sinkspur

"It's all about the Mexicans!!!"

LOL. Not me. It is all about big arrogant government (at all levels).


85 posted on 05/08/2006 7:24:36 PM PDT by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: sinkspur
You people are crazy. I just want to remember who will be responsible if the Democrats take over.

You don't even see the irony in your post.

87 posted on 05/08/2006 7:24:58 PM PDT by al_again
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To: sinkspur; al_again
The list of Democrat supporters. You're on it, too.

So refusing to abandon one's conscience, ethos, and integrity is now on a par with 'supporting Democrats'?
Put me on your little list too. It would bring me the utmost pleasure to be segregated from Republican kowtowers.


"If I could not go to Heaven but with a party,
I would not go there at all"

88 posted on 05/08/2006 7:25:01 PM PDT by jla
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To: Sloth
If the GOP knows they'll get conservative votes no matter what, then it is only incentivized to move leftward in an effort to get 'centrist' votes.

Logic has no place in this debate.

89 posted on 05/08/2006 7:25:26 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: mwfsu84

Well said...and thanks for posting that....


90 posted on 05/08/2006 7:25:32 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Tyr
When kids do not act the way you wish them to one doesn't reward them. One punishes them.

Says a noob who's been here all of four days.

Talk about kids. You're still in diapers.

I smell somethin'.

91 posted on 05/08/2006 7:25:58 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: All
Rationality rules here obviously. I can't wait to see the whining then. I don't agree with every conservative or with the President all the time but I'm certainly not going to pull my gun out and shoot myself in the foot because my head hurts. Third party vote? P***ing in the wind. Staying home? There's a person with conviction. It sounds like if it isn't easy, to hell with it. Sometimes you have to work with people of all types and accomplish the best that you can. If not, take your toys and go home. Maybe mommy will give you a sugar-tit and a blankie. We elected a President, not a dictator and even he is constrained to do the best he can with what he's got. Crippling him some more with a dem congress will certainly get all of you nay-sayers what you want.

I will vote REPUBLICAN and work as hard as I can to make sure the REPUBLICAN agenda moves forward with as much progress as possible.

Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill
92 posted on 05/08/2006 7:26:19 PM PDT by Houston_Texans
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To: SunnyD1182

The point of this post is, as disappointed as you are with Bush, it could get a lot worse with the party of Howard Dean.

In the last year, we've had Dick Durbin compare our soldier in Gtmo to Nazis. We've had an entire glee club that chattters joyfully every time something goes wrong in Iraq. Now we'll allow these people to control a major branch of our government.

No Republican president has ever governed strictly by Republican principles. Ronald Reagan in his last term RASIED taxes. Know why? Because a Democratic House forced him to.


93 posted on 05/08/2006 7:26:20 PM PDT by mwfsu84
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To: mwfsu84
Define "conservatism".
94 posted on 05/08/2006 7:26:23 PM PDT by manwiththehands (No, usted no puede!)
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To: RobbyS
Well. Perot was right about NAFTA.

Really? If all the jobs were being "sucked to Mexico" how come all the Mexicans are coming here to work?

Ross Perot followers are the natural audience for Infomercials.

95 posted on 05/08/2006 7:26:51 PM PDT by Ditto (People who fail to secure jobs as fence posts go into journalism.)
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To: mwfsu84
If it is down to between R and D, and you don't vote R, something is wrong inside your head.

That said, how you vote and you poll (etc) are different things. By admitting that you will always support R no matter what they do, you give no incentive for them to change course. Put their feet to the fire, make them afraid of losing your vote. Otherwise, if they think everything is safe within their traditional strongholds, their policies will branch out towards the mushy populist middle to "widen the margin". If there is no doubt that they will retain your support, this always happens. Scare the Republicans in the polls, but don't vote the dems into office (by staying home or otherwise).

Or just settle for the same old.

96 posted on 05/08/2006 7:27:04 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: sinkspur
I smell somethin'.

They sure are bold lately.

97 posted on 05/08/2006 7:27:05 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: inquest
In fact, the threat of a third party defection can provide an incentive to choose conservatives in the primaries.

LOL!

RINO DeWine just got 74% of the vote against a good conservative challenger in the Ohio Republican senatorial primary.

98 posted on 05/08/2006 7:27:10 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Goldberry

Had enough?

Enough of prosperity, security and tax cuts?

Or what?


99 posted on 05/08/2006 7:27:31 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: inquest

or, in some cases, it could lock up support for the other guys....

I'm talking close races here, not your basic Senate Race, like say, Ohio, where I'm sure Mike DeWhiner will open up to a 10% win when it's all said and done...

60% is better than 0% although 100% is the goal.

It would help if virtual nobodies wouldn't be the primary contenders against the types like Mike DeWhiner....


100 posted on 05/08/2006 7:27:39 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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