[Sunsong]

You are not the first person I have ever come across that had extreme sarcasm go flying over their head with a whooosh.

Who knew it was sarcasm? I had no idea just how arrogant you are!

I'll bet you can't stand those darn theocrats that founded our Republic either, can you?

Is that your belief? That the founders of our republic were theocrats? You are going to have a hard time proving that – just as you have yet to “prove” that you are in a position to redefine what the word “rights” means.

Fyi, the Founders of this country knew that they were founding a government – not a religion. The “rights” to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness apply to all Americans – not just the ones you approve of. (that includes Mary Cheney and gasp, gasp, homosexuals). The other “rights” enumerated in the constitution are such things as freedom of speech (again including Mary Cheney and the oh, so scary *homosexuals*), freedom to assemble, freedom of religion (even if they don’t join your church, freedom to bear arms, to a speedy trial etc etc.

No where does it say what you claimed that there is no right to sin!!! No where does it say that one must even believe in God. No where does it give religious instruction.

Perhaps what you are hoping for is something like Iran or Saudi Arabia – where people are forced to obey what is accepted as the only true church ?? The Islamists do not care about love – they worship virtue and doing what one is told. Perhaps that appeals to you as well???

[Antoninus]

Who knew it was sarcasm? I had no idea just how arrogant you are!

Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.

Is that your belief? That the founders of our republic were theocrats?

No, that is your belief. I am actually much more liberal on the subject of sodomy that our Founding Fathers were and you consider me a "theocrat." I find the Jeffersonian solution of castration for sodomites to be harsh. How is it, then, that I am a "theocrat" but Thomas Jefferson gets a pass in your book?

Fyi, the Founders of this country knew that they were founding a government – not a religion. The “rights” to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness apply to all Americans – not just the ones you approve of.

Nowhere in any of our founding documents is a 'right' to do evil enumerated, nor a 'right' practice deviant sex. As a matter of fact, deviant sexual practices were commonly outlawed and nobody thought twice about it.

No where does it say what you claimed that there is no right to sin!!!

It also says nothing in the Founding documents about forbidding cannibalism, but I think it's safe to say the Founders were against it. The Founders never thought our society would degrade to the point where people would be claiming a "right to sin." If we had a "right to sin", any law restricting human action would, by definition, be violating the rights of the sinner.

If we have a "right to sin", then by definition, we can take no action when we are the victims of sin for fear of violating another person's "right to sin." You may say that there are legal consequences to exercising your "right to sin"--but what kind of society punishes people for exercising their so-called "rights"? In common parlance, such a society would be called a tyranny.

When you think about it, the so-called "right to sin" is a clever way of saying we have no God-given rights at all.

John Adams said: "We have no government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."

Does this particular Founder sound like a man who thought we have a God-given right to sin?