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The Other Intelligent Design Theories
Skeptic Online ^ | May 2006 | David Brin

Posted on 05/08/2006 2:04:49 PM PDT by balrog666

Intelligent Design is only one of many “alternatives” to Darwinian evolution

There is rich irony in how the present battle over Creationism v. Darwinism has taken shape, and especially the ways that this round differs from previous episodes. A clue to both the recent success — and the eventual collapse — of “Intelligent Design” can be found in its name, and in the new tactics that are being used to support its incorporation into school curricula. In what must be taken as sincere flattery, these tactics appear to acknowledge just how deeply the inner lessons of science have pervaded modern culture.

Intelligent Design (ID) pays tribute to its rival, by demanding to be recognized as a direct and “scientific” competitor with the Theory of Evolution. Unlike the Creationists of 20 years ago, proponents of ID no longer refer to biblical passages. Instead, they invoke skepticism and cite alleged faulty evidence as reasons to teach students alternatives to evolution.

True, they produce little or no evidence to support their own position. ID promoters barely try to undermine evolution as a vast and sophisticated model of the world, supported by millions of tested and interlocking facts. At the level that they are fighting, none of that matters. Their target is the millions of onlookers and voters, for whom the battle is as emotional and symbolic as it ever was.

What has changed is the armory of symbols and ideas being used. Proponents of Intelligent Design now appeal to notions that are far more a part of the lexicon of science than religion, notably openness to criticism, fair play, and respect for the contingent nature of truth.

These concepts proved successful in helping our civilization to thrive, not only in science, but markets, democracy and a myriad other modern processes. Indeed, they have been incorporated into the moral foundations held by average citizens, of all parties and creeds. Hence, the New Creationists have adapted and learned to base their arguments upon these same principles. One might paraphrase the new position, that has been expressed by President Bush and many others, as follows:

What do evolutionists have to fear? Are they so worried about competition and criticism that they must censor what bright students are allowed to hear? Let all sides present their evidence and students will decide for themselves!

One has to appreciate not only irony, but an implied tribute to the scientific enlightenment, when we realize that openness to criticism, fair play, and respect for the contingent nature of truth are now the main justifications set forward by those who still do not fully accept science. Some of those promoting a fundamentalist- religious agenda now appeal to principles they once fiercely resisted. (In fairness, some religions helped to promote these concepts.) Perhaps they find it a tactically useful maneuver.

It’s an impressive one. And it has allowed them to steal a march. While scientists and their supporters try to fight back with judicious reasoning and mountains of evidence, a certain fraction of the population perceives only smug professors, fighting to protect their turf — authority figures trying to squelch brave underdogs before they can compete. Image matters. And this self-portrayal — as champions of open debate, standing up to stodgy authorities — has worked well for the proponents of Intelligent Design (ID). For now.

Yet, I believe they have made a mistake. By basing their offensive on core notions of fair play and completeness, ID promoters have employed a clever short-term tactic, but have incurred a long-term strategic liability. Because, their grand conceptual error is in believing that their incantation of Intelligent Design is the only alternative to Darwinian evolution.

If students deserve to weigh ID against natural selection, then why not also expose them to…

1. Guided Evolution

This is the deist compromise most commonly held by thousands — possibly millions — of working scientists who want to reconcile science and faith. Yes, the Earth is 4.6 billion years old and our earliest ancestors emerged from a stew of amino acids that also led to crabs, monkeys and slime molds who are all distant relatives. Still, a creative force may have been behind the Big Bang, and especially the selection of some finely tuned physical constants, whose narrow balance appears to make the evolution of life possible, maybe even inevitable. Likewise, such a force may have given frequent or occasional nudges of subtle guidance to evolution, all along, as part of a Divine Plan.

There is one advantage — and drawback — to this notion (depending on your perspective): it is compatible with everything we see around us — all the evidence we’ve accumulated — and it is utterly impossible to prove or disprove. Not only does this let many scientists continue both to pray and do research, but it has allowed the Catholic Church and many other religious organizations to accept (at long last) evolution as fact, with relatively good grace.

2. Intelligent Design of Intelligent Designers (IDOID)

Most Judeo-Christian sects dislike speculating about possible origins of the Creator. But not all avoid the topic. Mormons, for example, hold that the God of this universe — who created humanity (or at least guided our evolution) — was once Himself a mortal being who was created by a previous God in a prior universe or context.

One can imagine someone applying the very same logic that Intelligent Design promoters have used.

There is no way that such a fantastic entity as God could have simply erupted out of nothing. Such order and magnificence could not possibly have self-organized out of chaos. Only intelligence can truly create order, especially order of such a supreme nature.

Oh, certainly there are theological arguments that have been around since Augustine to try and quell such thoughts, arguing in favor of ex nihilio or timeless pre-existence, or threatening punishment for even asking the question. But that’s the point! Any effort to raise these rebuttals will:

1. make this a matter of theology (something the ID people have strenuously avoided). 2. smack as an attempt to quash other ideas, flying against the very same principles of fair play and completeness that ID proponents have used to prop up this whole effort.

IDOID will have to be let in, or the whole program must collapse under howling derision and accusations of hypocrisy.

3. Evolution of Intelligent Designers

Yes, you read me right. Recent advances in cosmology have led some of the world’s leading cosmologists, such as Syracuse University’s Lee Smolin, to suggest that each time a large black hole forms (and our universe contains many) it serves as an “egg” for the creation of an entirely new “baby universe” that detaches from ours completely, beginning an independent existence in some non-causally connected region of false vacuum. Out of this collapsing black hole arises a new cosmos, perhaps with its own subsequent Big Bang and expansion, including the formation of stars, planets, etc. Smolin further posits that our own universe may have come about that way, and so did its “parent” cosmos, and so on, backward through countless cycles of hyper-time.

Moreover, in a leap of highly original logic, Smolin went on to persuasively argue that each new universe might be slightly better adapted than its ancestor. Adapted for what? Why, to create more black holes — the eggs — needed for reproducing more universes.

Up to this point we have a more sophisticated and vastly larger-scale version of what Richard Dawkins called the evolution of evolvability. But Lee Smolin takes it farther still, contending that, zillions of cycles of increasingly sophisticated universes would lead to some that inherit just the right physical constants and boundary conditions.

Conditions that enable life to form. And then intelligence … and then…

Well, now it’s our turn to take things even farther than Smolin did. Any advocate of completeness would have to extend this evolutionary process beyond achieving mere sapience like ours, all the way to producing intelligence so potent that it can then start performing acts of creation on its own, manipulating and using black holes to fashion universes to specific design.

In other words, there might be an intelligent designer of this world … who nevertheless came into being as a result of evolution.

Sound a little newfangled and contrived? So do all new ideas! And yet, no one can deny that it covers a legitimate portion of idea space. And since “weighing the evidence” is to be left to students, well, shouldn’t they be exposed to this idea too? Again, the principles now used by proponents of ID — fair play and completeness — may turn around and bite them.

Which brings us to some of the classics.

4. Cycles of Creation

Perhaps the whole thing does not have a clear-cut beginning or end, but rolls along like a wheel? That certainly would allow enough macro-time for everything and anything to happen. Interestingly, the cyclical notion opens up infinite time for both evolution and intelligent designers … though not of any kind that will please ID promoters. Shall Hindu gurus and Mayan priest kings step up and demand equal time for their theories of creation cycles? How can you stop them, once the principle is established that every hypothesis deserves equal treatment in the schools, allowing students to hear and weigh any notion that claims to explain the world? 5. Panspermia

This one is venerable and quite old within the scientific community, which posits that life on Earth may have been seeded from elsewhere in the cosmos. Panspermia was trotted out for the “Scopes II” trial in the 1980s, when Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinge were among the few first-rank scientists to openly disbelieve the standard Origins model — the one that posits life appeared independently out of nonliving chemicals in Earth’s early oceans. Their calculations (since then refuted) suggested that it would take hundreds of oceans and many times the age of the Earth for random chemistry to achieve a workable, living cell.

Alas for the Creationists of that day, Hoyle and Wickramasinge did not turn out to be useful as friendly experts, because their alternative offered no comfort to the biblical Genesis story. They pointed out that our galaxy probably contains a whole lot more than a few hundred Earth oceans. Multiplying the age of the Milky Way times many billions of possible planets — and comets too — they readily conceded that random chance could make successful cells, eventually, on one world or another. (Or, possibly, in the liquid interiors of trillions of newborn comets.) All it would take then are asteroid impacts ejecting hardy cells into the void for life to then spread gradually throughout the cosmos. Perhaps it might even be done deliberately, once a single lucky source world achieved intelligence through … well … evolution. (Needless to say, Creationists found Hoyle & Wickramasinge a big disappointment.)

So far, we have amassed quite a list of legitimate competitors … that is, if Intelligent Design is one. Now a cautionary pause. Some alternative theories that I have left out include satirical pseudo-religions, like one recent internet fad attributing creation to something called the “Flying Spaghetti Monster.” These humorous jibes have a place, but their blows do not land on-target. They miss the twin pillars of completeness and fair play, upon which promoters of Intelligent Design have based their attack against secular-modernist science. By erasing all theological details, they hoped to eliminate any vulnerabilities arising from those details. Indeed, since the Spaghetti Monster is purported to be an Intelligent Designer, they can even chuckle and welcome it into the fold, knowing that it will win no real converts.

Not so for the items listed here. Each of these concepts — adding to idea-space completeness and deserving fair play — implies a dangerous competitor for Intelligent Design, a competitor that may seduce at least a few students into its sphere of influence. This undermines the implicit goal of ID, which is to proselytize a fundamentalist/literalist interpretation of the Christian Bible.

There are other possibilities, and I am sure readers could continue adding to the list, long after I am done, such as…

* We’re living in a simulation… * We’ve been resurrected at the Omega Point… * It’s all in your imagination … and so on.

I doubt that the promoters of Intelligent Design really want to see a day come when every biology teacher says: “Okay, you’ve heard from Darwin. Now we’ll spend a week on each of the following: intelligent design, guided evolution, intelligent design of intelligent designers, evolution of intelligent designers, the Hindu cycle of karma, the Mayan yuga cycle, panspermia, the Universe as a simulation…” and so on.

Each of these viewpoints can muster support from philosophers and even some modern physicists, and can gather as much supporting evidence as ID. In any case they are all equally defensible as concepts. And only censoring bullies would prevent students from hearing them and exercising their sovereign right to decide for themselves, right? Or, perhaps, they might even start private sessions after school, to study the science called … biology.

A day may come when the promoters of Intelligent Design wish they had left well enough alone.


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To: taxesareforever
Specific examples of talking points.

I have referenced evidence for the theory of evolution that you have requested and specific refutations of claims that you have presented. Calling them "talking points" in lieu of an actual rebuttal does not refute them.
421 posted on 05/29/2006 8:49:15 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Calling them "talking points" in lieu of an actual rebuttal does not refute them.

Calling them "talking points" puts them in the category where they belong. All you do is refute. Provide facts? Never.

422 posted on 05/29/2006 8:56:18 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Calling them "talking points" puts them in the category where they belong. All you do is refute.

Refutation is the appropriate response to factually incorrect statements.

Provide facts? Never.

Incorrect. I have referenced a number of facts. That you choose to ignore what I have presented does not negate their existence.
423 posted on 05/29/2006 9:09:41 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Incorrect. I have referenced a number of facts.

How can you sit there and say such a thing? That statement refutes what you said earlier:

Your words: While I cannot "prove" that the theory of evolution is true any more than I can prove any other scientific theory

Last I heard, the only way to prove something is with facts.

424 posted on 05/29/2006 9:32:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
How can you sit there and say such a thing? That statement refutes what you said earlier:

Your words: While I cannot "prove" that the theory of evolution is true any more than I can prove any other scientific theory

Last I heard, the only way to prove something is with facts.


You again do not understand how scientific theories are supported. I do not know if this is a result of willful ignorance or a lack of adequate explanation, so I will attempt to provide an explanation for you to follow.

Scientific theories are explanations of or for observed events; the results of objects falling to earth and orbiting bodies in space are explained by the theory of gravity, and the result of diverse life forms sharing common traits and common genetic components is explained by the theory of evolution. Theories are always "tentative", in that scientists are always open to the possibility that any given theory is potentially inaccurate or wrong. This means that no theory can be called "proven".

However, it is important to understand that a "theory" is not merely wild speculation; even though a theory is not proven, a great deal of confidence in the accuracy of its statements must still be established for an explanation to be termed "theory". The basis for the explanation, and the basis for the confidence established in a theory are "facts". Facts are data points; they are explanations of single observations. Scientific theories are considered valid when a large enough collection of facts are consistent with the statements and predictions of the theory. As such, facts support theories, even though theories cannot be proven.

As it stands, I cannot understand how your statement above is supposed to be coherent or intelligible. Theories cannot be proven, but that does not mean that scientists cannot be confident in the claims of a theory as a result of facts.
425 posted on 05/29/2006 10:03:31 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Theories cannot be proven

However, the Bible can and has been. Check out Lee Strobel's INVESTIGATIVE books, especially "A Case For Christ".

426 posted on 05/29/2006 11:24:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
However, the Bible can and has been. Check out Lee Strobel's INVESTIGATIVE books, especially "A Case For Christ".

While I acknowledge that it can be hypothetically possible to demonstrate to a degree of confidence the accuracy of various claims of the Bible, it is erroneous to claim that such claims can be "proven" in an absolute sense. In fact, "proof" only applies to mathematics; all else is merely established to varying levels of confidence.
427 posted on 05/29/2006 11:46:15 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
However, the Bible can and has been. Check out Lee Strobel's INVESTIGATIVE books, especially "A Case For Christ".

Read the book before utilizing your innumerable base of talking points. You cannot speak from a subjective point of view without reading the evidence. If you think you can, you may call yourself a scientist or a computer engineer.

428 posted on 05/29/2006 11:52:23 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Read the book before utilizing your innumerable base of talking points. You cannot speak from a subjective point of view without reading the evidence.

It is correct that I cannot analyze the validity of his claims without reading the book, and as such I will not speak on the accuracy of his statements. However, I do not have to evaluate any statement of historical events to know that it is truly impossible to prove them in an absolute sense. It is possible to establish a very high level of confidence in a historical statement, however it is always possible that the evidence leading to the conclusions in which confidence is held is misleading and has led to a completely or even slightly inaccurate conclusion.
429 posted on 05/29/2006 11:55:13 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
However, I do not have to evaluate any statement of historical events to know that it is truly impossible to prove them in an absolute sense.

Why am I not surprised since you have already stated that you would not believe an eyewitness account. however it is always possible that the evidence leading to the conclusions in which confidence is held is misleading and has led to a completely or even slightly inaccurate conclusion.

No doubt you are referring to evolution.

430 posted on 05/30/2006 12:34:33 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Why am I not surprised since you have already stated that you would not believe an eyewitness account.

I made no such statement. You are again making false claims about me with no basis in fact.

No doubt you are referring to evolution.

I am referring to all descriptions of historical events.
431 posted on 05/30/2006 12:39:42 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Why am I not surprised since you have already stated that you would not believe an eyewitness account. I made no such statement. You are again making false claims about me with no basis in fact.

Oh, but you did. It's a good thing you got all those talking points right at hand because you would soon lose your way as you have now done. Here's something for you to comtemplate. If a person was to tell you that they had witnessed a nuclear explosion would you pursue seeking out all their evidence or would you turn to science and try to prove how, when and where it happened? I do believe I know what your answer will be. I would request further explanation of their claim. Without any detail beyond the initial claim, I would have no means of an evaluation.

You said it. Now live with it.

432 posted on 05/30/2006 1:12:42 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
You said it. Now live with it.

To claim that requiring additional context is requied for evaluation of a vague statement is equal to rejecting eyewitness accounts entirely is illogical. There is no logical basis for your conclusion.
433 posted on 05/30/2006 1:38:41 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: taxesareforever
Without any detail beyond the initial claim, I would have no means of an evaluation.

You are the one being illogical. You also are the one demanding more and more detail for any claim that goes against your theories. In your world 1+1+=2 needs evaluation to determine the accuracy of the problem. It's no wonder that so many agree that scientist findings are skewed to reflect their agenda. Sheeesh.

434 posted on 05/30/2006 11:03:47 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
You are the one being illogical.

There is nothing illogical about requiring further context in order to evaluate a claim that, as given, is vague.

You also are the one demanding more and more detail for any claim that goes against your theories.

This statement is also false, and you have offered no justification for it.

In your world 1+1+=2 needs evaluation to determine the accuracy of the problem.

This is a strawman argument, and does not support any claim that you have made.
435 posted on 05/30/2006 12:14:21 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
There is nothing illogical about requiring further context in order to evaluate a claim that, as given, is vague.

Well keep providing me data because so far everything you have provided is vague.

436 posted on 05/30/2006 3:05:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Well keep providing me data because so far everything you have provided is vague.

On what specific subject do you wish for me to provide data? Fossil evidence? ERV insertions? Some other field of study?
437 posted on 05/30/2006 3:39:25 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
On what specific subject do you wish for me to provide data? Fossil evidence? ERV insertions? Some other field of study?

How about on the field of inaccurate measurements utilized to try and prove evolution?

438 posted on 05/30/2006 4:24:47 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
How about on the field of inaccurate measurements utilized to try and prove evolution?

I am unaware of any such field. Given that no scientist would claim that any theory can be proven, I doubt that such a field exists.
439 posted on 05/30/2006 4:49:36 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
I am unaware of any such field.

Time to spread your wings and enter into the annuls of scientific predictions. It's there and a computer engineer should have no problem finding the data.

440 posted on 05/30/2006 9:14:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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