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To: Mount Athos


Does that mean that Wisconsin is really Germania...when all those Germans settled there way back when?

Not saying that illegal immigration isnt a problem, but this is classic misdirection.

The Federal Goverment needs to keep its eyes on the ball in regard to world wide terrorism, nuke proliferation, and the national economy...empower the states to manage their borders.

The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...


4 posted on 05/08/2006 12:26:34 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Viva la National Security!! Viva la border control!


6 posted on 05/08/2006 12:35:48 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: in hoc signo vinces

"The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire..."

Interesting. I see something more sinister pushing the amnesty and "no borders" crowd. It's called socialism and communism.

There is nothing "sinister" about expecting people to obey the laws of this country. There is nothing "sinister" about protecting our borders. There is nothing "sinister" about attempting to relieve the HUGE burden illegals pose to our social services, prison sysytem and education system. I could go on and on...


7 posted on 05/08/2006 12:36:04 PM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Does that mean that Wisconsin is really Germania...when all those Germans settled there way back when?

Typical misdirection. There is no comparison between the Germans and other nordic people settling areas in our northeastern states(such as WI) and ILLEGALS swarming across our borders today. The people who settled WI ASIMILATED and didn't maintain a seperate culture, they came here legally and they came to be Americans.

BSing yourself and others about ILLEGALs will not make the problem go away. There is a huge problem here with national security and the soverienty of the US. If you can't see it, I pity you. The republicans pols had better act fast or they will find themselves replaced in Nov.

15 posted on 05/08/2006 12:51:18 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...

This is what's sinister

A North American Community Approach to Security

CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada

A MEXICAN VISION FOR NORTH AMERICA
24 posted on 05/08/2006 12:59:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I take it you don't live in a Southwestern Border state where they are driving our hospitals out of business and our schools can't keep up -- all on the taxpayers backs???


29 posted on 05/08/2006 1:05:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: in hoc signo vinces
The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...

National ID and tracking software modeled after NAIS.

As long as the problem grows, the people might even accept it, which is why we need border control sooner rather than later.

42 posted on 05/08/2006 1:18:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that
something sinister within this country is driving the ire...


Well, in my case the "something sinister" is:
1. anger over an unsecured border (even five years after 9-11).
2. extreme displeasure at an invading force that expects me to
not only pay taxes to support my legal co-citizens AND for the health, education
and occupational infrastructure for ILLEGALS
3. Having illegal supporters hurl the lovely rhetorical devices of "racist",
"vigilante" and the like because I simply care about points #1 and #2 above.

I suspect that heat generated under point #3 is the "something
sinister" you seem to sense.
52 posted on 05/08/2006 1:33:12 PM PDT by VOA
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To: in hoc signo vinces
The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...

Yet, your tag line is "Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!" So, it's ok to have illegals here, just so long as they're not middle eastern?

60 posted on 05/08/2006 1:37:54 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
I get the sense that something sinister within this country

If so, it's from the left, it's their way.

Wake up.

80 posted on 05/08/2006 1:53:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (How come Mexican illegals don't sneak into Cuba?)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I like my amnesty plan!
Please call them INVADERS and don't compare them to people who are legal aliens!
IF you aid and abet CRIMINALS, you are a criminal!

President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.
It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


122 posted on 05/08/2006 3:00:20 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

The "classic misdirection" is actually in your post.

You are trying to equate the controlled immigration of people who wanted to assimilate into American culture and who played by the rules, with the uncontrolled, bursting-at-the-seams illegal immigration of millions who do not want to play by the rules and do not want to assimilate into American culture, but rather to push their border farther northward to reclaim land they believe is theirs.


133 posted on 05/08/2006 3:12:56 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

The Federal Goverment needs to keep its eyes on the ball in regard to world wide terrorism, nuke proliferation, and the national economy...empower the states to manage their borders.

The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...

You may get flamed for stating that, but I agree with you.

139 posted on 05/08/2006 3:45:43 PM PDT by rdb3 (It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Had any hospitals in your area closed due to illegal aliens? Have your taxes raised due to illegals (actuall you have if you pay Income Tax)? Seen your infrastructure crumble under the weight of illegals?

On The Day Without Illegals, traffic was GREAT. We saw what a day without illegals was like and we LIKED IT.

141 posted on 05/08/2006 3:51:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Does that mean that Wisconsin is really Germania...when all those Germans settled there way back when?

Say...what's the percentage the Germans in Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago et all are drawing/sucking welfare (WIC's, emergency care, food stamps, free schools and trimmings etc?)and free loading off the general welfare tits?
Further more those nasty Germans in Wisconsin came on the legal boat if my memory serves me right!

Comparing Germans to Mexicans...uh, can you do that at all?

163 posted on 05/08/2006 5:41:53 PM PDT by danmar ("Reason obeys itself,and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it....... Thomas Paine)
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