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End of Welfare Equals end of Illegal Immigration
Sierra Times ^ | 5/5/2006 | Paula Devlin

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:57:00 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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To: FerdieMurphy

Amen! I agree 100% with this article. Thanks for posting it, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops!

These things are killing this once great country.


21 posted on 05/08/2006 5:50:03 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: FerdieMurphy

I used to work at DHS so know first hand how they abuse the system. It's beyond disgusting. My secretary, who issued the checks, finally got mad enough to quit. Why? Because the welfare checks she was giving these scumbags were more than her own hard earned paycheck.

Whatever happened to the days that people took pride in a good job done and knew the value of a dollar? What happened to the days when family took care of it's own?


22 posted on 05/08/2006 5:55:07 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: jmaroneps37

Our country was great before welfare and would be again without it. I think welfare is a horrible idea that encourages sloth and immorality.


23 posted on 05/08/2006 5:58:02 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jmaroneps37

Ending all Federal welfare is a good idea.
The welfare "net" creates a dependency on the gub'mint and destroys families.

The proper level for welfare to be handled at is at the state level - or lower (community, church, and family would be best...). Cutting illegal aliens off from the welfare teat is another good idea.


24 posted on 05/08/2006 5:59:18 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

"End of welfare." If you're seeing a light at the end of that tunnel, I'd say you're on track.


25 posted on 05/08/2006 6:03:39 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: jmaroneps37
I am a proud conservative right down to my bones, but ending welfare is where I get off. Having a welfare net is one of things that adds to the greatness of our country.

We've always had those things -- we just used to call them "charity" instead of "taxpayer-funded entitlements."

One of the biggest ironies about the illegal immigration debate is that the primary economic "cost" these people incur in this country is the burden they place on taxpayer-funded institutions (public schools, public hospitals, etc.) that have no place in a truly free, independent nation.

27 posted on 05/08/2006 6:18:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Dane

"The welfare system is a corrupt racket and needs to be reformed even more, but by saying getting rid of welfare will get rid of illegal immigration is just a populist non truth."

I would agree that it's a non-truth although I don't agree it's a populist one. I'm hardcore anti-illegal immigrant and don't believe for a minute ending welfare would end illegal immigration. Would it affect it? Sure. End it, not even close.

You do know that people can work and still get welfare, right? If you have 5 kids and make 25K a year and live in CA, you are getting some welfare or starving.


28 posted on 05/08/2006 6:21:24 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

A lot of what has been said about welfare here can be said about government run public education, in which children languish until graduation day. Public education=education welfare. All education should be exclusively in the private sector, eliminate property taxes, forget vouchers, and let people buy the education for their children that they can afford. Let charity, i.e., Catholic and whoever else will, pick up the slack for the desperately poor.


29 posted on 05/08/2006 6:33:25 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Dane
The welfare system is a corrupt racket and needs to be reformed even more, but by saying getting rid of welfare will get rid of illegal immigration is just a populist non truth.

We did reform welfare ten years and it haven't slowed down illegal immigration- most people on welfare are women with children, not the type most prefer when it is time to build houses, especially when they can have able bodied men from Mexico. Many of the men who grew up in welfare culture have criminal records that make them unemployable.

30 posted on 05/08/2006 6:33:38 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: FerdieMurphy

"Illegals are not held accountable when they break our traffic laws."

Of course they are held accountable. Why would they write something like this?


31 posted on 05/08/2006 6:34:07 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: jmaroneps37
I am a proud conservative right down to my bones, but ending welfare is where I get off.

This sentence is completely oxymoronic.

32 posted on 05/08/2006 6:44:51 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: navyguy
The vast majority of people on welfare are young or middle aged

Please provide the numbers and sources.

34 posted on 05/08/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: girlangler

You should have seen what it was like in the Kern Valley, CA.

Tons of loser welfare parents who would encourage their kids to skip school, and never have them do their homework.
There were lot of kids with 2% GPAs in the public school system there! I saw one teacher break into tears because she had called 40 parents about their children's schooling, 38 told her to go to (censored).

I also have a friend whose husband died just after their baby was born. She went on welfare and got her nursing degree. Now she is a full time surgical nurse.

Kick off the losers, help the deserving.


35 posted on 05/08/2006 7:00:50 AM PDT by bordergal
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To: FerdieMurphy

The 'War on Poverty' in graphs and charts:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm


36 posted on 05/08/2006 7:06:16 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: FerdieMurphy

While I agree on the need to eliminate welfare, I don't think that will end immigration, or even reduce it as, contrary to popular belief, Immigrants use Welfare and social programs LESS than your average American and studies have shown this, they contribute far more to the eocnomy then they take out and if they stopped coming it would hurt all Americans. IMHO


37 posted on 05/08/2006 7:08:21 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: FerdieMurphy
This article is the most concise explanation of the link between our welfare system and illegal immigration.

The Author's opinions fit my beliefs exactly. I never thought that I would see such a masterful document that precisely "pins the tail on the donkey."

This article needs to be thrown in the face of any Republican who asks you for money or support, every time and many times...while you withhold the money or support they want until they actually do something about it.

I will.
38 posted on 05/08/2006 7:08:48 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: traviskicks

You obviously haven't checked the FAIR website to see how much the illegals in your state are costing. They send their money back to their home countries, and US taxpayers pick up the bills for their hospitalization, education of their kids, and incarceration of millions of them in our jails. Illegals are not an asset to any state's economy.


39 posted on 05/08/2006 7:12:45 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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If people had to PAY at Emergency Room visits, there wouldn't be so many illegals getting free service for the coughs, fevers, stomach cramps, and normal growing up headaches. They have LEARNED in Mexico, that doctors visits are suppose to be FREE. And so they are impacting the system.

Let's just send the bill to Mexico. Mexico doesn't give free care to sick Americans.

40 posted on 05/08/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by heartwood
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