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End of Welfare Equals end of Illegal Immigration
Sierra Times ^ | 5/5/2006 | Paula Devlin

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:57:00 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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The welfare system has generated a huge bureaucracy of professional care-givers who cannot impose any disciplines on their charges.

This liberal attitude towards illegal immigrant presence does not occur in any other country.

Lyndon Bird's legacy perpetuated by his successors and the complicit houses of congress.

1 posted on 05/08/2006 4:57:03 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
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"We are perilously close to becoming a third world nation, overrun by corruption, greed and crime. If we do not succeed in overturning this malignant globalist mentality in November’s elections, our children and grandchildren will hold us in unbridled contempt for all eternity.

ENFORCE welfare laws on the books get the greedy leaches off medicaid and welfare!

2 posted on 05/08/2006 4:58:27 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: HiJinx

ping


3 posted on 05/08/2006 5:06:56 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: FerdieMurphy

I am a proud conservative right down to my bones, but ending welfare is where I get off. Having a welfare net is one of things that adds to the greatness of our country. The fact that some number of people abuse the system is no reason to end it. Just ending it is a cowardly way to govern. We have to have the courage to enforce the laws we have and make it even harder to cheat.


4 posted on 05/08/2006 5:07:53 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

This article states my thoughts exactly. I know for a fact there are large segments of American society that know nothing except sucking off the govt. tit, depending on the big Sugar Daddy in Washington. They won't work because they don't have to.

I have personally seen examples where employers had to hire Mexicans (not illegals) because the local white population would rather draw welfare than work.

And we do need to quit paying young women to have babies out of wedlock. There are plenty of ways to prevent pregnancy, and plenty of educational programs in schools to teach young girls what causes pregnancy. So why is the unwed births higher than ever? Because we pay them to have babies.


5 posted on 05/08/2006 5:09:41 AM PDT by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: FerdieMurphy

This is what needs to be said.


6 posted on 05/08/2006 5:10:39 AM PDT by Tribune7
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You can't end welfare, then the libs wouldn't have anything to bribe folks to vote for them with.


7 posted on 05/08/2006 5:12:11 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Lyndon Baines


8 posted on 05/08/2006 5:12:52 AM PDT by Flyer (Illegal immigration - There, it's been mentioned, now get back on topic)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Great article!


9 posted on 05/08/2006 5:16:49 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Actually that is not true. All one has to see who is rebuilding New Orleans, it ain't returning Katrina evacuees, it's hispanics and they ain't getting welfare.

The welfare system is a corrupt racket and needs to be reformed even more, but by saying getting rid of welfare will get rid of illegal immigration is just a populist non truth.

10 posted on 05/08/2006 5:19:27 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: jmaroneps37
The fact that some number of people abuse the system is no reason to end it.
Yes it is, especially when "that number" is in the millions and transcends multiple generations.

That's also the same BS line we keep hearing about Medicare and Medicaid. The costs are absolutely strangling this country.
11 posted on 05/08/2006 5:21:18 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: jmaroneps37
I am a proud conservative right down to my bones, but ending welfare is where I get off. Having a welfare net is one of things that adds to the greatness of our country. The fact that some number of people abuse the system is no reason to end it. Just ending it is a cowardly way to govern. We have to have the courage to enforce the laws we have and make it even harder to cheat.

I am not sure that the problem with welfare is that some people cheat the system. The problem is the system itself. Whatever the intentions of Congress, the system they created encourages people to be idle and dependent on others. This would be so even if everyone adhered strictly to the rules.

12 posted on 05/08/2006 5:23:57 AM PDT by Logophile
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"ending welfare is where I get off"

I get off thinking about ending welfare.

13 posted on 05/08/2006 5:25:46 AM PDT by jpsb
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As an ex welfare mom...here is my story. I used to be married to someone who I now know has some serious psychological issues....it wasn't quite as apparant then...We had 4 children and one day my husband decided that the welfare route was the ticket. He didn't have to work and a check came to the door. Up until this time he had maintained a minimum wage job...but it was full time and repectable. We were not rich but we were getting by. His attitude became gimme what you got, lemme have. He lost his self respect, eventually turning more and more to the bottle. I saw my family disintegrate before my eyes.

At one point he was required to go to the county offices to pick up the check and prove he had been looking for work...he decided even that was too much to ask for him...so he just didn't show up. I thought maybe now he would get off his lazy butt and go get a job because the golden goose was about to dry up...but Mr Government came through...instead of punishing this man (and us) for not doing what he was required to, they decided to send the check to our home and gave us more money to boot. Boy that really showed that deadbeat didn't it? I was told by my welfare case worker (more than once) that I should just leave him and I would get even more money....I couldn't believe that they were trying to force me to break up my family...but that is the ultimate goal. It does not foster family units..it does not try to preserve families either.

I eventaully found the courage to just say enough is enough...got rid of the deadbeat, left my kids with their grandparents while I got a job. I hardly ever saw my kids, but eventually got a home for all of us...remarried a wonderful guy with a great work ethic and have never looked back at those days again.

Welfare is a powerful destructive force in this country...those who are on it can feel trapped and discouraged..just like I was. The loss of privacy is another point that really ate at me...My family was not my own...it was the states...my home was open for inspection...because the state has the right to see who is living there.

It may have sounded like a good idea at the time...helping out the poor and all, but the legacy it has produced is generations of hopeless and discouraged people who feel trapped in a system they have no control over. Getting off of welfare cost me just about everything...my family is still trying to mend the wounds of those times we all were separated, but given the choice again, I would still do what I did,

My children are now all productive people in society, 3 work full time, another in college (deans list) and one still at home, a National Honor Society member.

I shudder to think what they would be like had I stayed on welfare and with that bum.


14 posted on 05/08/2006 5:25:48 AM PDT by leenie312
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If people had to PAY at Emergency Room visits, there wouldn't be so many illegals getting free service for the coughs, fevers, stomach cramps, and normal growing up headaches. They have LEARNED in Mexico, that doctors visits are suppose to be FREE. And so they are impacting the system.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 5:28:12 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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Either we end Welfare (and associated entitlements) or it surely will end us.

Once the parasites (welfare recipients) overwhelm the host (those of us who work for a living) and the host expires, so too do the parasites. All of which will be hastened by the retirement of the baby boom and the influx of anarchical illegal immigrants aided and abetted by our Congress and Administration.

Buh-By.

16 posted on 05/08/2006 5:28:56 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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I agree. Get rid of all of it. I would like to see all Americans be qualified for disaster "loans". If you find yourself unemployed, pregnant, not able to work, husband leaves you with babies, a hurricaine blows your house away....you can get assistance that must be paid back with low interest. Charities can supply other needs. End medicaid, unemployment, and the welfare aspect of Fema. The truly disabled would could still be protected under medicare.
17 posted on 05/08/2006 5:31:10 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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Thanks for being honest. I liked your story. I guess ONCE in my life I worked real hard to keep my salary below 10,000 so I wouldn't loose the FREE LUNCH at school and dental coverage for my kids on Hwy 16, Poth St, San Antonio, Texas 1979. I knew if I got over that we would loose food stamps. I worked harder to keep it under $10,000 so I could get the benefits.


18 posted on 05/08/2006 5:32:41 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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I must disagee. The Welfare system does NOT make our country great. Quite the opposite. While we should have a basic social net to support those who truly need it (such as poor elderly), the Welfare system, as an institution, encourages and, in fact, rewards sloth and irresponsibility. The vast majority of people on welfare are young or middle aged, and nearly 1/3 of them are illegal aliens. The welfare system itself, as it is designed, allows this. It is deeply corrupt and inefficient. Cheating is only part of the problem.

The US taxpayer has footed the bill for welfare for DECADES and we as a nation have almost nothing to show for it. Minorities who have been economically successful over the last 40 years have done so OUTSIDE of the welfare system, not because of it.

But reforming the welfare system would require genuine backbone in Congress. Our nation has become so feminized, so averse to discipline, that I doubt it will ever happen. Congress fears the poor and the politically correct. We live in a Tyranny of the Unproductive.


19 posted on 05/08/2006 5:37:23 AM PDT by navyguy
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Here is a novel idea...why not lessen welfare benefits -for able bodied recipients- so they are below what minimum wage is? ...my ex-husband's greatest talking point was ..why should I work for minimum wage when I can get more from welfare?

Pretty soon those minimum wage jobs would be looking pretty darn good.


20 posted on 05/08/2006 5:50:02 AM PDT by leenie312
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