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To: robertpaulsen
Given the fact that she is indeed a diabetic, does that change your opinion about her liability for her condition? Or do diabetics get a pass?

After reading through the posts more carefully, I stand corrected on the diagnosis. Doesn't change my assessment, though. The officer used ridiculously excessive force. OTOH, on what do you base your repeated assertion that Fuchs was driving deliberately impaired? Without that, you have no argument whatsoever. It's possible she didn't even know she was diabetic; happened to a friend of mine here who almost wrecked his car on a busy road when his eyesight began to fail suddenly. Turned out he's been misdiagnosed as having Crohn's when he was really diabetic.

Please tell me you're not a physician.

286 posted on 05/11/2006 11:02:07 AM PDT by Scothia ( When something important is going on, silence is a lie.)
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To: Scothia
Scothia,

Without re-reading, I'm pretty sure she knew she had some meatbolic disorder. She'd had a hypoglycaemic incident before.

I'm responding here to 'deliberately impaired'. So my daughter goes driving and she doens't know she's oging to have a seizure but she knows she had seizures fewer than 6 months ago. Is there a moral problem with that?

I am NOT saying a person with diabetes is exactly similar. Far from it. I'm wondering, just wondering, about a threshold for LIKELIHOOD of suddenly losing the ability to control a vehicle. I think it's agreed that the threshold is higher than "deliberate impairment", and I think that's acceptable. I just wonder how much higher it should be and how we decide.

287 posted on 05/11/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: Scothia
"Please tell me you're not a physician."

No, but I play one on FR.

"The officer used ridiculously excessive force."

Well, ley's say he was excessively cautious.

Ridiculously excessive force would lead one to believe that she was beaten to within an inch of her life. Rodney King comes to mind when you use a phrase like ridiculously excessive force. Certainly you wouldn't deliberately try to inflame readers of this thread by using a phrase like ridiculously excessive force, would you?

Now, she is a diabetic. This means she is on medication. This means she owes it to me, to you, to my family, and everyone else on the road to be sure to treat her condition before she gets behind the wheel. She got lucky. She could have killled someone. That's all I'm saying.

I think she was lax in treating her condition. I think it was 100% her fault that she went hypoglycemic. I think she needs to take personal responsibility for the accident and what happened afterwards. Which is what I would say in the jury room.

IF you're saying that she is properly treating her condition, yet things like his will happen anyways, then we need to look at the licensing requirements for diabetics.

291 posted on 05/11/2006 12:50:13 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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