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Moussaoui gets life, the terrorists win - Mark Steyn
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 7, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/07/2006 6:17:09 AM PDT by xjcsa

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To: Racehorse

DING! DING! DING!

"Summary executions" sounds like a winner to me!


21 posted on 05/07/2006 7:38:27 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: xjcsa
[Story]"A Paris court fined the terrorist known as 'Carlos the Jackal' more than $6,000 Tuesday ...."

This guy is still alive? Why??!

22 posted on 05/07/2006 7:46:34 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: manwiththehands
Is the War on Terror a real "war"?

It is against us anyway.

23 posted on 05/07/2006 7:50:07 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: xjcsa

IMHO, there is a thin line here....the thugs like Moussaoui, can be liken to Germany's brown shirts of the '30s, who were criminals, recruited in the beer halls, and were the thugs of the times...The Brown Shirts of Germany, intimidated the general German population, into supporting Hitler....and so, with Moussaoui,and his friends, we have "down trodden" human flotsam, acting in a criminal manner, to intimidate the general population, into the acceptance of Islam.....


24 posted on 05/07/2006 7:50:35 AM PDT by thinking
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To: veronica

Yes! The disturbing thing about our present judicial system is the dearth of jurors with analytical thinking skills. The education system, tv, etc. have made temporizing mushbrains of most. Once a criminal or terrorist act is committed, all attention then turns to the perp., his/her mitigating or causal circumstances, and how to "save" them from real retribution--i.e. - consequences of their actions.

vaudine


25 posted on 05/07/2006 7:50:37 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: xjcsa
If this government was afraid, for whatever reason, to execute him, then we have lost the battle and it is only a matter of time until we fall.

The reason we have not take bin Laden can be attributed to the same faulty logic used for not executing Moussaoui. bin Laden is too hot for any Country to handle. We don't want him and neither does any other country because all lack the will to execute him.

The smartest thing he could do is to turn himself in to a nuetral country, if he can find one.

26 posted on 05/07/2006 7:51:07 AM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Pokey78

Steyn ping


27 posted on 05/07/2006 7:55:48 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: DJ Taylor

Better yet, cutting off his head would send a stunning message.........(but we aren't barbarians).

Mussoui should be sent to a pig work farm and photographed associating with pigs rather than being allowed to indoctrinate disenfranchised prisoners who could be released to carry on his agenda against America.

Although his concept of becoming a martyr for the cause was derailed, his continued life behind bars will only become a security issue and potentially cause hostage/prisoner release issues for future terrorist kidnappers.

Thank the jurors.they have propegated terror because they bought into the victim defense ploy.


28 posted on 05/07/2006 7:56:58 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!!)
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To: Paloma_55

"If it was a real war, we would have declared war."

Man, this is a tiresome argument. And it comes from people who haven't a clue of the history of this country.

Educate yourself:

Declaration of war by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States


29 posted on 05/07/2006 8:03:09 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Racehorse

"This is a very unsatisfying article. It is more of a whine or a lament than commentary, because Steyn leaves unwritten his proposals for dealing with . . . well, if they're not criminals, what are they? Prisoners of War? Then, prisoners of what war? Processed under the authority of what American law? Just what is Steyn advocating? Summary executions?"

I guess you missed the controversy about giving Moussaoui a civil trial instead of trying him before a military tribunal, as other terrorist, saboteurs, enemy agents have been tried.

Steyn is saying it was a mistake to treat Moussaoui like he was attacking a private citizen, like an ordinary criminal. He attacked the country. It was therefore not a matter for a criminal trial.

"Maybe he's suggesting we model "terror justice" after Franco's military tribunals which followed the Spanish Civil War? What?"

You need to read up on military tribunals and US history.


30 posted on 05/07/2006 8:09:08 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: hershey

Absolutely. I keep saying it--this should never, ever have gone to a civilian court. And the appeals haven't even begun, but last week France said they "might" seek to bring him back to France to serve out his sentence--or a $6,000 fine, depending on their level of chickenheardedness.


31 posted on 05/07/2006 8:23:51 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: bkepley

Do you really? Are you aware that France is considering having him returned to France to serve out his sentence--which, of course, they can change to suit their whims? Are you aware that this case is probably going to be appealed (more media circus) and that his mother is trying to have him released on various insanity and hardship claims? Military tribunal is the ONLY way this case should have been tried.


32 posted on 05/07/2006 8:26:18 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: cripplecreek

Well, what the heck--we let Yusef go to a civilian trial (hey, wasn't that under Clinton's watch?), so we might as well let them all. After all, if we do one wrong, we should just keep on going, right?

For the record, I thought EVERYTHING Clinton did during his tenure was wrong and helped encourage the terrorists to perpetrate 9/11 and many other attacks.


33 posted on 05/07/2006 8:29:11 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Racehorse

Maybe he's suggesting what a lot of us on FR have advocated: military tribunal.


34 posted on 05/07/2006 8:31:10 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: hershey

You are on the money. The director of "United 93" correctly portrayed the terrorist hijackers as enemy soldiers on a mission, not some hapless criminal gangbangers.


35 posted on 05/07/2006 8:48:27 AM PDT by texasmountainman (Remember the heroic men and women of Flight 93-go watch United 93.)
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To: xjcsa
Saddam could claim the same but his jury isn't operating to the legal principles of the Oprahfonic Code

Moussaoui lucked out ... if he had been tried by Judge Judy instead of the Oprah weenies, the trial would have lasted 25 minutes and he would have begun taking his dirt nap four years ago. A standard question prosecutors should ask when interviewing potential jurors might be, "Who do you like better ... Oprah or Judge Judy?"

36 posted on 05/07/2006 8:50:22 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: xjcsa; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
Thanks!

Steyn ping!


37 posted on 05/07/2006 9:42:39 AM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: xjcsa
Oprahfonic Code

LOL! Thanks for posting. I wondered what the Great MS was going to say about this.

Carlos the Jackal, BTW, during his stay in French maximum seecurity, has been permitted to marry his French lawyer (after she converted to Islam, as Carlos had done about 10 years earlier) and receive leftist heads of state. On his first official trip, Chavez even wanted to visit Carlos - whose brother is a high-ranking member of the VZ government - before he met Chirac, although the French drew the line at this.

Of course, I just read that Pres Bush seems to believe that the Gitmo prisoners should receive regular trials, so I'm feeling that the world has gone mad...

38 posted on 05/07/2006 9:53:37 AM PDT by livius
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To: xjcsa
Oprahfonic Code

LOL! Thanks for posting. I wondered what the Great MS was going to say about this.

Carlos the Jackal, BTW, during his stay in French maximum seecurity, has been permitted to marry his French lawyer (after she converted to Islam, as Carlos had done about 10 years earlier) and receive leftist heads of state. On his first official trip, Chavez even wanted to visit Carlos - whose brother is a high-ranking member of the VZ government - before he met Chirac, although the French drew the line at this.

Of course, I just read that Pres Bush seems to believe that the Gitmo prisoners should receive regular trials, so I'm feeling that the world has gone mad...

39 posted on 05/07/2006 9:55:10 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Ooops! Sorry for the double post, everybody!


40 posted on 05/07/2006 9:55:56 AM PDT by livius
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