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Moussaoui gets life, the terrorists win - Mark Steyn
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 7, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/07/2006 6:17:09 AM PDT by xjcsa

May 7, 2006

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

"America, you lose," said Zacarias Moussaoui as he was led away from the court last week.

Hard to disagree. Not just because he'll be living a long life at taxpayers' expense. He'd have had a good stretch of that even if he'd been "sentenced to death," which in America means you now spend more years sitting on Death Row exhausting your appeals than the average "life" sentence in Europe. America "lost" for a more basic reason: turning a war into a court case and upgrading the enemy to a defendant ensures you pretty much lose however it turns out. And the notion, peddled by some sappy member of the ghastly 9/11 Commission on one of the cable yakfests last week, that jihadists around the world are marveling at the fairness of the U.S. justice system, is preposterous. The leisurely legal process Moussaoui enjoyed lasted longer than America's participation in the Second World War. Around the world, everybody's enjoying a grand old laugh at the U.S. justice system.

Except for Saddam Hussein, who must be regretting he fell into the hands of the Iraqi justice system. Nine out of 12 U.S. jurors agreed that the "emotional abuse" Moussaoui suffered as a child should be a mitigating factor. Saddam could claim the same but his jury isn't operating to the legal principles of the Oprahfonic Code. However, if we ever catch Mullah Omar or the elderly Adolf Hitler or pretty much anyone else we're at war with, they can all cite the same list of general grievances as Moussaoui.

He did, in that sense, hit the jackpot. We think of him as an "Islamic terrorist," an Arab, but he is, in fact, a product of the Western world: raised in France, radicalized in Britain, and now enjoying a long vacation in America. The taxpayers of the United Kingdom subsidized his jihad training while he was on welfare in London. Now the taxpayers of the United States will get to chip in, too.

On the afternoon of Sept. 11, as the Pentagon still burned, Donald Rumsfeld told the president, "This is not a criminal action. This is war."

That's still the distinction that matters. By contrast, after the 2005 London bombings, Boris Johnson, the Conservative member of Parliament, wrote a piece headlined "Just Don't Call It War." Johnson objected to the language of "war, whether military or cultural . . . Last week's bombs were placed not by martyrs nor by soldiers, but by criminals."

Sorry, but that's the way to lose. A narrowly focused "criminal" approach means entrusting the whole business to the state bureaucracy. The obvious problem with that is that it's mostly reactive: blow somewhere up, we'll seal it off, and detectives will investigate it as a crime scene, and we'll arrest someone, and give him legal representation, and five years later when the bombing's faded into memory we'll bring him to trial, and maybe conviction, and appeal of the conviction, and all the rest. A "criminal" approach gives terrorists all the rights of criminals, including the "Gee, Officer Krupke" defense: I'm depraved on account of I'm deprived. If you fight this thing as a law enforcement matter, Islamist welfare queens around the world will figure there's no downside to jihad: After all, you're living on public welfare in London plotting the downfall of the infidel. If it all goes horribly wrong, you'll be living on public welfare in Virginia, grandstanding through U.S. courtrooms for half a decade. What's to lose?

It's a very worn cliche to say that America is over-lawyered, but the extent of that truism only becomes clear when you realize how overwhelming is our culture's reflex to cover war as just another potential miscarriage-of-justice story. I was interested to see that the first instinct of the news shows to the verdict was to book some relative of the 9/11 families and ask whether they were satisfied with the result. That's not what happened that Tuesday morning. The thousands who were killed were not targeted as individuals. They died because they were American, not because somebody in a cave far away decided to kill Mrs. Smith. Their families have a unique claim to our sympathy and a grief we can never truly share, but they're not plaintiffs and war isn't a suit. It's not about "closure" for the victims; it's about victory for the nation. Try to imagine the bereaved in the London blitz demanding that the Germans responsible be brought before a British court.

Agreeing to fight the jihad with subpoenas is, in effect, a declaration that you're willing to plea bargain. Instead of a Churchillian "we will never surrender!", it's more of a "Well, the judge has thrown out the mass murder charges, but the DA says we can still nail him on mail fraud."

And, even if the defendant loses the case, does that mean the state wins? Here's an Associated Press story from a few weeks ago recounting yet another tremendous victory for the good guys in the war on terror:

"A Paris court fined the terrorist known as 'Carlos the Jackal' more than $6,000 Tuesday for saying in a French television interview that terror attacks sometimes were 'necessary.' The 56-year-old Venezuelan, whose real name is Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, was convicted of defending terrorism. The court did not convict him for expressing pleasure that 'the Great Satan' -- the United States -- suffered the Sept. 11 attacks, saying those comments were his personal reaction."

That's right, folks. The French state brought a successful hate-speech prosecution against Carlos the Jackal, albeit not as successful as they wanted:

"Prosecutors asked for a fine four times larger than the $6,110 penalty imposed. But the judges said they did not see the need for a higher fine because Ramirez's comments referred to the past and aimed to justify his own actions. Ramirez, dressed in a red shirt and blue blazer, kissed the hand of his partner and lawyer, Isabelle Coutant-Peyre, during the judgment."

Coming soon to a theater near you: The Day of the Jackal's Hate-Speech Appeal Hearing.

Copyright © Mark Steyn, 2006


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: mad; marksteyn; moussaoui; steyn; terrortrials
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To: xjcsa
America "lost" for a more basic reason: turning a war into a court case and upgrading the enemy to a defendant ensures you pretty much lose however it turns out.

The lesson to be learend from the entire Moussaoui case.... don't let this happen again Mr President. A military tribunal was the way to proceed.

121 posted on 05/08/2006 5:52:58 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: bkepley
I don't know man...life in supermax? Even 10 years in supermax. Might be better off dead. I think people are getting a little hysterical over this.

I agree, but.... He should have been executed.

122 posted on 05/08/2006 6:09:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: lentulusgracchus

No capital punishment in the EU!


123 posted on 05/08/2006 6:10:36 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: GOPJ

Sorry... kind of...

Very few jokes are originals but that one came to me...


124 posted on 05/08/2006 6:14:34 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (80% of Americans support catapault punishment - Lets do it!!)
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To: expatguy

I agree. The crackpot should have been handed over to a military tribunal. They would have fried him quicker than anyone can blink. Civilian courts are so wimpy any more. The slimey lawyers are allowed in, and all they want is $$$$, they don't care who they set free on the streets just as long as their wallets are full. It was all just another indication to the terrorist that we are a spineless and weak country...


125 posted on 05/08/2006 7:50:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: hershey

Sounds like a great tag...


126 posted on 05/08/2006 9:16:54 AM PDT by GOPJ ("It's war, not a Quickie-Mart robbery gone bad..." -- Freeper hershey)
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To: xjcsa
America "lost" for a more basic reason: turning a war into a court case and upgrading the enemy to a defendant ensures you pretty much lose however it turns out.

Steyn has a beautiful gift for expressing the kernel of an issue in simple terms.

127 posted on 05/08/2006 11:10:45 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: concrete is my business
WOW!

The UK Times story is a hoax!

But the way our enemies kill people is still a verified fact.

Graphic descriptions and avoidable pictures here on how the UK Times got fooled yesterday.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/175675.php

128 posted on 05/08/2006 2:22:01 PM PDT by concrete is my business (place, consolidate, finish)
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To: bkepley
I don't know man...life in supermax? Even 10 years in supermax. Might be better off dead.

I think I'm with you on this one.

Just imagine waking up each morning in that small cell; the only thing he has to look forward each day is prison food. And each night he goes to sleep knowing the his next day is going to be exactly like his last one.

I know revenge is a powerful motivator, but as long as we are permanently protected from this man, I don't care whether he lives or dies.

129 posted on 05/08/2006 2:29:32 PM PDT by TravisBickle (Are you talkin' to me?)
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To: expatguy; jan in Colorado
Thanks for the ping. I couldn't agree more. Excellent article on your blog too, btw.

How many videos will we have to watch on Al Jazeera of American hostages now begging for their lives unless Moussaoui is released?

And how many of those hostages will suffer the ultimate penalty that Moussaoui should have paid?

I shudder to think of the multitude of ways their perception of the kuffars weakness will embolden them.

130 posted on 05/08/2006 2:32:17 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: TravisBickle

Well the real reason I said that was because the night before I watched one of those investigator shows and a victim's sister who was anything but compassionate said she wanted the guy locked up with no chance of parole because she knew what kind of guy he was and it was the worst punishment for him she could imagine. If we kept this guy in supermax for the rest of his life it'd be a pretty harsh sentence. Also, sometimes I think the death is too good for some people, especially when they are mass murderers as if taking their pitiful life will pay for what they've done.


131 posted on 05/08/2006 2:42:58 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: DJ Taylor
Western Civilization has become so civilized that it can no longer deal effectively with barbarians.

Nail on the head.
132 posted on 05/08/2006 8:13:14 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: TravisBickle

"Just imagine waking up each morning in that small cell; the only thing he has to look forward each day is prison food. And each night he goes to sleep knowing the his next day is going to be exactly like his last one.

I know revenge is a powerful motivator, but as long as we are permanently protected from this man, I don't care whether he lives or dies."



I think they ought to pipe in a recording of the call to prayer to Allah about every 10 minutes, 24 hours per day, loudly, for the rest of his miserable life. Let him choke on it.


133 posted on 05/08/2006 8:38:13 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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