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George W. Milhous Bush? - Is Dubya the new Nixon?
NRO ^ | May 03, 2006 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/06/2006 4:53:38 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 05/06/2006 7:01:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

That cackling you're hearing comes from the chorus of Bush critics (an all-inclusive term that accounts for spittle-flecked bloggers and moderate liberal finger-waggers alike) giddy over Bush's basement-level poll numbers. Several bloggers have gone to the trouble of showing side-by-side charts of Bush's approval rating following close behind former President Richard Nixon's. At the end of the trail is the X-marks-the-spot treasure trove "Nixon resigns."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bush; georgewbush; nixon; rn; term2
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To: Don Diego

"Nixon was great."

Don't know much about Nixon, do you?


101 posted on 05/06/2006 7:10:57 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Txsleuth
Are you gonna be stupid and vote 3rd party, or dem...just to get back at President Bush and the Republicans, like so many on FR are planning to do?

Some people expect results.

102 posted on 05/06/2006 7:14:08 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Txsleuth
>>>>but I might be wrong...that Reagan had even lower ratings than Bush has had...at some point in Reagan's presidency...

You are wrong. Reagan was at 37% in two Gallup polls from Jan14-17 & Jan21-24 1983. Reagan hit 35% in one Gallup poll on Jan28-31 1983. That was it. Bush43 has been below 40% for quite some time now, and not just because of the war in Iraq either. Conservatives give him low grades on his liberal spending habits, expanding government, and a liberal policy with open borders and illegal immigration.

>>>>PLUS, he didn't have the type of beginning in office like Bush had..

As I pointed out to you, Reagan won in a landslide in 1980. Bush was lucky old Sandra Day O'Conner was sitting on the SCOTUS. Reagan was faced with the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression and his bold, decisive leadesrhip led to a 17 year economic boom. Bush43 has always had a solid economy on his side, low inteterst rates, low inflation and low unemployemnt rates.

>>>>Reagan lovers need to take the blinders off...just as we Bushbots have had to do, many times.

Reagan has history on his side and deserves all the credit and kudos he receives. Bush is no Reagan. Get over it already.

103 posted on 05/06/2006 7:14:27 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: marron
Democrat hatred of him has been unchanged since his first day in office, a solid wall of noise that never varies, neither more nor less, and consequently can be safely ignored.

Well said. I wish I could ignore that wall of noise.

104 posted on 05/06/2006 7:17:22 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: bnelson44
You'll get Hillary

If by extension you mean that the best we conservatives can hope for is radical moderation and aimless drift (which I believe is a fair why to characterize Bush's domestic agenda), I disagree.

105 posted on 05/06/2006 7:18:48 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Grampa Dave

Does the President sign your checks personally, or does he have an aid handle it?


106 posted on 05/06/2006 7:20:37 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: wrathof59
Lets talk about Reagan vs. Bush. The easiest way is to name those things that Reagan accomplished that Bush hasn’t.

Reagan signed the first handgun control bill in California history; Bush has signed no anti-gun laws in his political career.

Reagan signed the first Gay-rights legislation in California; Bush has never signed any gay rights legislation.

Reagan broke his promise never to raise taxes with his “revenue enhancement” programs along with the largest FICA increase in history. Bush hasn’t raised taxes in any way .

Reagan cut and run in Lebanon after the first taking of casualties. Bush has stayed the course and held to his promise not to back down.

Reagan appointed 3 liberals and one conservative to the Supreme Court. Bush hass appointed 2 Conservatives and numerous lower court Conservatives.

Reagan talked a good game on abortion but Bush pushed for and got the late term abortion ban passed.

Reagan left office and immediately endorsed the Brady Bill in his first public appearance as an ex-president.

The myth of Reagan is exactly that. A myth. He was a great president because he could say the right things at the right time to make the country feel better. It is beyond dispute that Reagan beats Bush hands down when it comes to communication BUT Bush beats Reagan in every conservative category anyone cares to offer.

107 posted on 05/06/2006 7:21:43 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Sam Hill

I said "consider voting Libertarian." the immigration issue is one I completely disagree with them on. I just get disgusted when no major party really carries through with spending restraint.


110 posted on 05/06/2006 7:23:16 PM PDT by Hurricane Bruiser (Property taxes prove that everyone is simply a renter)
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To: Reagan Man

President Reagan took office with our hostages still in Iran, he said he would act miltarily and the mullahs released the hostages immediately after he was sworn in.

The air traffic controllers struck, and President Reagan immediately fired them (they were getting paid $70,000 back then!)

And the poll numbers were from a deep recession because the home lending rate in 1980 was 16+%, and the construction industry was dead in the water.
It wasn't until 1984 that the construction industry started to show life, and it is still going over 20 years later.
He inherited the mess from Carter and cleaned it up quickly and decisively.


111 posted on 05/06/2006 7:23:36 PM PDT by wrathof59
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To: Txsleuth
"Are you gonna be stupid and vote 3rd party"

Knock it off. Childish name-calling doesn't help anyone; you know better.
112 posted on 05/06/2006 7:30:43 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent

Take a look at #82 -- TX called me ignorant, whinning, and a joke in one post, and in the later post stupid. Amusing.


113 posted on 05/06/2006 7:35:30 PM PDT by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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To: Texasforever
...BUT Bush beats Reagan in every conservative category anyone cares to offer.

You are absolutely right.

114 posted on 05/06/2006 7:37:42 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: marron

In the end, Bush will be remembered pretty much the same as Reagan with a lot of good points an, of course plenty of screw-ups.


115 posted on 05/06/2006 7:40:59 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: neverdem
Karl Rove is part of the problem in the way he marginalizes the conservative base of the Republican party just to get more votes from the "moderates". Rove came up with "compassionate conservative" and labels conservatives as "extreme" and "fringers". And Karl Rove has been out and about working on getting "Republicans" elected.

This explains everything.

116 posted on 05/06/2006 7:43:31 PM PDT by manwiththehands (No, usted no puede!)
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To: manwiththehands

Folks, folks. Please take a chill pill. This country isn't 60-40 conservative/liberal. It's 30/40/30 conservative/moderate/liberal. It's the 40% that decides elections. And a lot of those in the 40% want big government and all the things Bush PROMISED in his campaigns. And he has delivered on those promises. What was the BIG issue in 2000? Not terrorism. Not foreign policy. Not energy. It was prescription drugs and education. Bush promised to move on those items and he has followed through. He promised us conservative judges and he has delivered. He has promised us a forward defense of this country, and he has delivered. He promised us tax cuts, and he has delivered. He has tried to get an energy program through and well as social security reform, all thwarted by the Dems and the spineless Rhinos in Congress. Your anger should be directed at the gutless wonders in Congress who won't fight for this President. Remember too that it is Congress, not the President, that decides how big government is. Hell, the President can't even not spend the money that Congress tells him to spend. Reagan tried that in the '80s and the Supreme Court rebuked him and told him to follow his Constitutional obligation. Congress, not Bush, is our real enemy. Maybe if we ditched a few incumbents in the primaries the rest would get the message.

Either way, the way to look at the situation is that the glass is half full. No sense in smashing the glass because it's not full. Which will happen if the Dems take either house in Congress this November. You "scorched earth" folks just don't get it. You're only going to put Hillary in the White House and the Dems will busy themselves to undo what progress has been made over the last six years.


117 posted on 05/06/2006 8:11:13 PM PDT by Tarnsman
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To: All
Those who want to "punish the Republicans and President Bush" by voting third party, staying home, or voting Dem in 2006 and 2008, better read THIS, carefully and decide, whether do they really want to responsible for all that the Dems are planning and WILL do, if they get back into power.

Confident Democrats Lay Out Agenda

"Democratic leaders, increasingly confident they will seize control of the House in November, are laying plans for a legislative blitz during their first week in power that would raise the minimum wage, roll back parts of the Republican prescription drug law, implement homeland security measures and reinstate lapsed budget deficit controls.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said in an interview last week that a Democratic House would launch a series of investigations of the Bush administration, beginning with the White House's first-term energy task force and probably including the use of intelligence in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. Pelosi denied Republican allegations that a Democratic House would move quickly to impeach President Bush. "

118 posted on 05/06/2006 8:35:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Hurricane Bruiser
Things I do like:
Tax Cuts
War on the nuts
Promotion of SS privatization
reduced gun control

You can cross "reduced gun control" off your list. President Bush stated on several occasions that he would have signed an "Assault Weapons Ban" if it reached his desk.

Who can you thank for almost single-handedly killing the Assault Weapons Ban? Tom Delay.

119 posted on 05/06/2006 8:41:07 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: operation clinton cleanup

my PBS (channel 12 philadelphia, pa) shows movies every saturday after 8. and have been for years some are good movies and it's about the only tv i watch. tonight was ben-hur. last week was ben and jerry.. i mean ben and Woodward and Bernstien.


120 posted on 05/06/2006 8:56:48 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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