Posted on 05/06/2006 2:13:42 PM PDT by bkepley
It can be done.
Lucky you. When Philip LeBel (King of France as you know) sentenced the head of the Templars to die at the stake, from the flames the Templar cursed him as well as the Papal representative and said "I will see you before God's throne within the year"
In fact, both died within the year.
Were you around in those days? The right was never thrilled with Kennedy. And, you can find that kind of oily "charm" in any bar across America ...... what ever happened to "engage brain before opening mouth"......Not enough time has passed for me to become an admirer of JFK. Sorry. The election was stolen for him by his father; his memory will be forever tainted by that. I do not buy into the manufactured "charm" and "mystique" created to obscure a failed presidency. And, I do not buy into the whole schtick that he was a martyr ergo he must have been a good man .... He was what he was.
Their "brains" are fully engaged. They are spewing their deeply held contempt for this country and everything it stands for. They are so fully engaged that they never miss an opportunity to do so. It is not a random or accidental thing. They know what they are doing and they intend to do it.
Hooray!Now ... do something about Maryland's confiscatory taxes ... and I may even move to your beautiful state. I am besotted with the Chestertown/Easton area and also with the rolling countryside of western Maryland where my forebears settled for a generation before heading south.
Joseph multiplied his fortune through stock speculation; he was a master of the stock pool, a then-legal arrangement in which a few traders conspired to inflate a stock's price, selling just before the bubble burst. Some attribute these market manipulations as being in part responsible for the Stock Market Crash of 1929 which triggered the Great Depression. Ironically, a short time later he was appointed the first chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, where he oversaw the banning of these practices. During Prohibition, Joseph was reputedly a bootleger, selling for several British alcohol distillers. He had a large inventory that he sold for a gain of millions of dollars when Prohibition was repealed in 1933. He invested these gains in residential and commercial real estate, the Merchandise Emporium in Chicago and Hialeah Race Track.
Joseph's first active involvement in a national political campaign occurred during Franklin D. Roosevelt's bid for the Presidency. He donated, loaned, and raised a substantial amount of money for FDR's presidential campaign. President Franklin D. Roosevelt rewarded him, with an appointment as the inaugural Chairman of Securities and Exchange Commission. Some attribute a quote to the then President that he had "sent a thief to catch a thief."
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.
I'm in my late 60's so yes I was around that time, and just because your opinion doesn't correspond with mine doesn't mean that mine is wrong and yours is right....
I happen to have enjoyed JFK and his wife, whether you did or not is your opinion....but to put me down because I don't cow-tow to you is idiotic....
Did I hear a while back that one of the Shrivers planned to run in California?
In fact, both died within the year.
It's a little early for spooky Halloween-type stories, but that is an amazing bit of medieval European history. Grand Master Jacques de Molay really knew how to curse his enemies, and the curse was seemingly much more powerful than he'd called for. Excerpted from "The Three Edwards" by Thomas Costain:
The horrified spectators heard the voice of the Grand Master cry out from the flames: "We die innocent. The decree which condemns us is an unjust decree, but in heaven there is an august tribunal to which the weak never appeal in vain. To that tribunal I summon the Roman pontiff within 40 days."
The witnesses shuddered when the tortured voice continued: "Oh, Philip, I pardon thee in vain, for thy life is condemned. At the tribunal of God within a year, I await thee."
And the first to die not long afterward (from dysentery) was Pope Clement V, and a few months later Philip IV (the Fair) died.
But then the curse didn't stop. Under French Salic Law, only sons could inherit the throne. No problem, Philip left 3 strapping, healthy sons. His eldest son, Louis (the Quarreler), succeeded him at the age of 25 and died at 27. And Louis's postumatously born son, John, died only 4 days old.
So Louis was succeeded by his next younger brother, Philip V (the Tall), who dodged the curse for 6 years and then died at age 28, without issue.
Finally, Philip IV's 3rd and last son, Charles IV, was crowned. (He was called 'the Fair', like his father, but a better name would have been 'the Nervous'.) He reigned 6 years and managed to get himself married 3 times during that period but died leaving only daughters. And this, mein sohn, marked the end of the ancient royal house of Capet.
All the other European and English kings must have been only too glad that the dying Grand Master hadn't called their names out while he was cursing the Pope and the French King, because they also began persecuting all the Knights Templers in their realms.:)
In fact, both died within the year.
It's a little early for spooky Halloween-type stories, but that is an amazing bit of medieval European history. Grand Master Jacques de Molay really knew how to curse his enemies, and the curse was seemingly much more powerful than he'd called for. Excerpted from "The Three Edwards" by Thomas Costain:
The horrified spectators heard the voice of the Grand Master cry out from the flames: "We die innocent. The decree which condemns us is an unjust decree, but in heaven there is an august tribunal to which the weak never appeal in vain. To that tribunal I summon the Roman pontiff within 40 days."
The witnesses shuddered when the tortured voice continued: "Oh, Philip, I pardon thee in vain, for thy life is condemned. At the tribunal of God within a year, I await thee."
And the first to die not long afterward (from dysentery) was Pope Clement V, and a few months later Philip IV (the Fair) died.
But then the curse didn't stop. Under French Salic Law, only sons could inherit the throne. No problem, Philip left 3 strapping, healthy sons. His eldest son, Louis (the Quarreler), succeeded him at the age of 25 and died at 27. And Louis's postumatously born son, John, died only 4 days old.
So Louis was succeeded by his next younger brother, Philip V (the Tall), who dodged the curse for 6 years and then died at age 28, without issue.
Finally, Philip IV's 3rd and last son, Charles IV, was crowned. (He was called 'the Fair', like his father, but a better name would have been 'the Nervous'.) He reigned 6 years and managed to get himself married 3 times during that period but died leaving only daughters. And this, mein sohn, marked the end of the ancient royal house of Capet.
All the other European and English kings must have been only too glad that the dying Grand Master hadn't called their names out while he was cursing the Pope and the French King, because they also began persecuting all the Knights Templers in their realms.:)
I was alive and very much aware of "Jackie" as she ignored her husband's philandering, her "marriage" to Onassis that came with a written stipulation that she was required to have sex with the old Greek at least once a year, plus her huge payout from him {I forget how many millions}.
She was a whore, pure and simple.
I suppose you have some sort of Constitutionally guaranteed "entitlement" to your opinion ... and you are welcome to it ... BUT just don't try to pretend that your opinion is a universal truism. It is not.
but to put me down because I don't cow-tow to you is idiotic....
No one has put you down ... except yourself by your own stupid response. And, you are the one demanding that an honest difference of opinion be seen as idioticTo pretend that everyone just loved the Kennedys is, at best, seeing the world [retrospectively] with rose coloured glasses, at worst ... well, other FReepers can decide that for themselves.
You probably pine for Princess Diana, and can't wait for American Idol to come on, as well. It takes all kinds ... chacun a son gout, and all that.
Don't be so quick to attack ... you may get a dose of your own medicine in return.
So he closed ranks, encouraged his children to see anyone outside the family as the enemy, and perceived that politics could get his family the power and respect he so deeply craved. His hubris and ambitions cost him dearly.
It's called building your house on sand.
I feel so sorry for you....maybe you should join patches....
Forget the Eastern Shore and take a look at Southern Western Shore, St. Mary's County, and Calvert County.
There is a "muttering" that they are tryying to get Maria to run, but I don't know.
It is never too early for spooky Halloween type stories!
;)
I thought I saw a thing on the news a while back that her brother was going to run from the district that takes in Santa Monica because he is on a rant about the heights of bushes, etc...
Another revealing post by you! LOLWhen the abillity to have an intelligent discussion eludes some FReepers ... well, all that is left is a personal attack. So, there you go again.
Go back and crawl under your pop culture rock where you belong and leave political discourse to others more able.
You would benefit from learning to think instead of just emoting.
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