Rummy "lied"

Belmont Club | Friday, May 05, 2006 | Wretchard

[ckilmer]

Here's the link to the belmont club.

[Waco]

I became totally used to being lied to during the Klinton's 8 years.

[HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath]

How long are they going to beat this WMD nonsense? I guess when everybody in the Clinton admin said he had WMD's it was OK. But actually doing something about it, thats a no no in Washington fantasy land, where problems disappear by ignoring them. President Bush will be totally vindicated on his decision to invade Iraq, and all the naysayers will look like fools. Its doubly important that our military is there, now that Iran wants to become the new Middle East bully on the block.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Zarqawi was in Baghdad during the prewar period. That is a fact."]

Yeah, but what was he doing? Buying apples at the street corner?

In short, the good Secretary needs to explain a little more here...I'm not saying Rumseld's wrong, but inquiring minds want to know.

[TAdams8591]

Precisely!

[MJY1288]

He was in Baghdad getting VIP treatment at Baghad's best medical facility, then escorted back to his terrorist headquarters.

Anybody who thinks it was a mistake to remove Saddam from power AFTER 9/11 is simply somebody who watches way too much Main Stream TV NEWS. Saddam had his hands in almost every terrorist movement around the world, he was boasting about his willingness to pay anyone who blows themselves up while killing a Jew, would get a $25,000.00 Check with his signature on it. There is n o room in this world for tyrants like him and the Nutjob in Iran is next

[endthematrix]

Zarqawi wasn't the best example of AQ/Iraq collusions. He was a terrorist and in Iraq. To my knowledge he wasn't a main player in AQ (narrow definition) in Iraq until 2003.

[Lancey Howard]

Good analysis.

[Steve Van Doorn]

there was some reports a long time ago on FR showing Zarqawi was very likely working on a stratagy to kill Saddam and take over Iraq for Al Quada.

[AntiGuv]

"The exploitation is just starting."

Indeed.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Rumsfeld doesn't have to explain anything to anyone."]

Oh yes he does, the Constitution requires it.

[MaineVoter2002]

How long are they going to beat this WMD nonsense?

For as long as the republicans continue to be on the defensive about the issue rather than go on the offensive. The Bush White House also continues to give the left the ammo.

I would have thought twice about sending in ground forces if we knew for sure that Saddam had WMD. It was NOT the main purpose for going to Iraq. The WMD issue only helped us determine WHEN we should go into Iraq to take care of Saddam's terrorist ativities against Israel, his connections to Al Qaeda and his refusal to abide by the cease-fire agreement.

We decided it was better to go in now (sooner rather than later) and NOT wait for Saddam to have WMD and be able to use them to blackmail the world. Pre-Iraq War Bush once said that if we allowed Saddam to continue his plans of having WMD he could very well change the geo-politics of the region.

We did NOT go to Iraq because of WMD. The WMD issue was to determine that we should go sooner NOT later.

So, who is at fault? The democrats for lying? Or the Bush White House for dropping the ball and actually going on the "defensive" and quoting past democrats on WMD instead of insisting that Saddam's connection to terrorists, his terrorist activities and his failure to abide by the cease-fire agreement were the reasons we went to Iraq.

How can we defend the WH when it does not defend itself?

[endthematrix]

I haven't seen that, but Zarqawi has achieved much in that objective. I assume that Saddam, even seen by many as a "great Arab leader," would be a target for AQ because of his Baathification of Iraq, without STRICT adherence to the Koran. I never bought the lefty secularism lie to prevent invasion, he was a Muslim fanatic like the rest of AQ, but with different agendas.

[Steve Van Doorn]

Why is this an issue for you? This seems to be nit picking words said.

If you have been reading FR there has been plenty of signs of WMD found.

[MJY1288]

I agree with you for the most part, but I believe the Bush Administration (Bush Himself) believes that history will defend him, and responding to people like Cindy Sheehan, and the Democrats who support her, is a waste of time...

I agree

[MJY1288]

I left out this point...... We on the right need to defend the POTUS against the likes of these radical leftists who would defend Saddam before defending the USA

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["Saddam had his hands in almost every terrorist movement around the world...']

No he didn't - he didn't have the wherewithal. But, Iran has and continues to be the one who really does - to get at what you're saying.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"How can we defend the WH when it does not defend itself?"

This IS Rumsfield and Bush's job, he supposed to defend his position but he is doing a dam poor job at it.

Personally I think he should be fired for that reason alone.

[pogo101]

Being wrong is the same as lying. Didn't you get the memo? /sarc