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Superman flies again . . . but can even he save Hollywood?
The Times ^ | May 6, 2006 | Chris Ayres

Posted on 05/05/2006 11:06:21 PM PDT by MadIvan

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The movie I actually WANT to see is:

"The 11th Day: Crete 1941"

http://www.crete1941.com

It is about the Nazi defeat at the hands of ordinary people of the island of crete. It is what caused Winston Churchill to say "Greeks don't fight like heroes, Heroes fight like Greeks."

But I am biased, not because I know people involved. I am biased because I know people who lived it.

It does not have a distributor last I heard, I guess hollyweird does not like movies where good defeats evil.


121 posted on 05/06/2006 8:10:56 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Darkwolf377

I will see Pirates.


122 posted on 05/06/2006 8:18:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Darkwolf377

I read this week Hollywood is now starting to lower salaries -- bad box office makes no one worth 25 million.


123 posted on 05/06/2006 8:21:00 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: The Foolkiller
"When will Hollywood learn that Lex Luthor is NOT a stand-up comedian?"

Apparently, never....Look at what Joel Schumacher did with the Batman franchise. It looked like the only thing he knew about Batman was the TV series. Then, along came Batman Begins, and that at least gave us a chance to see Batman played straight.

Hollywood has NEVER gotten that it is possible to make a straight drama related to these superheroes. Case in point--the original Superman III (Richard Pryor), and the disatrous Superman IV, (which looked like it was shot as a kid's movie).

124 posted on 05/06/2006 8:30:06 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Especailly Jim Carey.


125 posted on 05/06/2006 9:20:22 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (If you flame me I'll ignore you. Assume that to mean I think you're an idiot not worth my time.)
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To: Centurion2000

James Nelson's fighting sail series would make an enjoyable film franchise, as would Clive Cussler's Dirk Pitt tales.


126 posted on 05/06/2006 9:20:22 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Yo quiero secure borders.)
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To: cincinnati65; The Foolkiller
Dear God. They're going to do it AGAIN. When will Hollywood learn that Lex Luthor is NOT a stand-up comedian? That was what REALLY turned me off about the Chris Reeves movies.

Actually, I really enjoy the Gene Hackman portrayal of Lex Luthor. Basically, he's a genius whose mind is so warped that he has turned to villainy. If he was played straight it would probably be a bore. Nah, Lex Luthor is the smartest kid in the 6th grade, all grown up, and smart enough to realize that everything's a joke. That kind of combination of brains, avarice, and criminal vision would probably come out more sardonic than menacing (though he is a tough customer).

The character is peppered with very funny incongruencies. The greatest criminal mind in the world, probably of all time, and he hangs out with idiots. Priceless. The only thing I would change is having him be bald throughout Superman 1 and 2. Spacey seems to borrow heavily from the Hackman vision, AND he is bald, so it looks good to me.

127 posted on 05/06/2006 9:30:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: jwh_Denver

Lex Luthor and General Zod were awesome evil doers. Campy and at the same time well...campy. I loved their lines in those Superman films. I mean, the movies were about comic books and they were the bad guys.

Terrance Stamp was great in "The Collector" and Gene Hackman in Superman and in Unforgiven ... I just wish that I could have shot him in by the time that I was in that part of that movie.  Clint has the gift.

128 posted on 05/06/2006 9:39:31 PM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

That story is totally overblown. All the stars mentioned have had at least their last movie, and some their last few, flop. Flops cause salaries to drop. Meanwhile Kirsten Dunst, Elijah Wood, Colin Farrell, and Hugh Jackman are having their salaries climb. It's the normal cycle, some stars fade, some stars brighten, there's always somebody making a ton of cash.


129 posted on 05/06/2006 9:52:39 PM PDT by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: Rastus

No, I thought Halloween 3 was a good movie that stood on its own, despite the fact it had nothing to do with the others. The main villain in that one was great-remember him just before he died, smiling up at Atkins and applauding after Tom had screwed up the works? Brrrr. The idea when they made that movie was to have a movie every year based on Halloween-the holiday, not Carpenter's movie (they should have stopped that franchise after part 2)-at least that's what I've read. It bombed so bad, they dropped the idea.


130 posted on 05/06/2006 11:16:50 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: cincinnati65

I can't wait for the "Begins" sequel, with The Joker. Should be great. By the way-did you notice all the inmates from Arkham Asylum got away at the end of that movie? That's so they can come back in the sequels as villains. The guy who created Bats sure knew a lot about psychology-Bats and all his adversaries were either schizophrenic, psychotic,or screwed up in some way.


131 posted on 05/06/2006 11:25:48 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: KamperKen

See posts 15 & 16.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625808/posts


132 posted on 05/06/2006 11:33:30 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: The Foolkiller
That's what really fascinated me about Batman Begins--how they got into the mind of Bruce Wayne and showed how an ordinary man actually developed into Batman. The gap in the old days of the comic book series (granted I haven't seen any of the graphic novels since 1983 or so) was HOW Bruce Wayne became Batman. We knew WHY he became Batman (parents killed as a child), but not HOW. He just seemed to show up one day in the Batman suit.

One great story I remember when I was a kid was one of those Phantom Stranger-Batman crossovers. The Phantom Stranger gave Batman the opportunity to go to a parallel universe, where a young Bruce Wayne (from that universe) was going to see his parents get killed. Batman was torn between stopping the murders and in some way avenging his own parents' death, or not stopping the murders and giving this world a Batman to prevent crime in the future.

He had to do a lot of soul-searching about who he was and what he had been able to accomplish with his life. In kind of a Hollywood ending, Batman prevented the murders, but the young Bruce Wayne saw that it was Batman who intervened and saved his parents' lives. He was so inspired by this mysterious man dressed in a bat costume that put his life on the line to save his parents that he decided that was what he wanted to do with life, and began training to become a costumed hero in the future. Pretty good stuff.

133 posted on 05/07/2006 4:26:18 AM PDT by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: cincinnati65

I never read that one, but I have "The Killing Joke" and the hardcover 1st edition of "Arkham Asylum". Great stuff, and a lot more hardcore than the comics. "Killing Joke" actually made you feel sympathy for The Joker, even though he's a vicious psychopath. Tells the full story of his past.


134 posted on 05/07/2006 5:26:31 AM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The game that made the NFL irrelevant..)
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To: MadIvan
Terrified that the public has exchanged nights out at the movies for nights in with DVDs and surround-sound home theatre systems, multiplexes are testing ways to make going to the movies more pleasant.

Charge reasonable prices for popcorn and soft drinks.

135 posted on 05/07/2006 5:50:53 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Richard Kimball
Absolute best cover from that page is this one:


136 posted on 05/07/2006 7:06:39 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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137 posted on 05/07/2006 7:19:56 AM PDT by jetson
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
The best movie of the summer is likely to be one that features no live actors - Pixar's animated feature "Cars".

As far as I'm concerned last years best movie was Curse of the Wererabbit.

No joke.

 

138 posted on 05/07/2006 7:24:02 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: MadIvan

I very much dislike going to the movies. I don't like crowds. I don't like to sit in the dark with a room full of strangers. I don't care much about movies, though I like films. I pay about $1200 a year for the full cable package so I don't have to go and spend $50 to go to the movies, with parking, popcorn, etc.

The original Superman films were actually pretty bad, imho. The casting was bad, and they were too many goofball antics. If this superman is darker, maybe I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD. Otherwise, I'll wait until it comes on cable.

Sorry to the theater owners. Maybe they should redevelop their properties. They almost always got the short end of the stick anyway.


139 posted on 05/07/2006 12:03:57 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: TheBigB

B: I have no clue whatsoever why the comics cover I originally posted at #52 was pulled... but, if you didn't get a chance to see it: FReepmail me. :)


140 posted on 05/07/2006 2:54:20 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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