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CA: Dad says he shot son in self-defense
Daily Press (Victorville, CA) ^ | 5/3/06 | JUSTIN BOGGS

Posted on 05/05/2006 10:02:03 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Dad says he shot son in self-defense

By JUSTIN BOGGS Staff Writer

VICTORVILLE — A former sheriff's deputy accused of murdering his son walked the jury through the moments that led to him pulling the trigger.

It was an emotional second day of testimony Tuesday as James Smith, 58, stood in the middle of the courtroom showing the jury which hand he used to fire the shot that killed his son.

"I don't remember pulling the trigger," Smith said. "But I know I did."

With his shoulders slumped, Smith broke into tears as he told the court how he tried desper- ately to aid his son immediately after the shooting.

"I saw the bullet hole and the blood coming out of him," Smith told the jury. "I rolled him over and tried to stop the blood ..."

"I told my son he needed help right away," Smith said.

"I was telling (sheriff's) dispatch to hurry up ... I didn't want my son to die."

Smith is accused of murdering his son, Joshua Smith, 20, inside the family's Hesperia home on Aug. 27, 2004 following a physical confrontation between the two.

James Smith, who has pleaded innocent, faces one count of murder. If convicted, he faces 50 years to life in state prison, said Deputy District Attorney Anil Kaushal.

James Smith, who worked as a sheriff's deputy in the High Desert during the 1980s, tried to shed light on comments he made in an interview with investigators the day of the killing.

Near the end of that interview, James Smith questioned why he was being arrested for murder, asking detectives what probable cause they had "besides a dead body."

"When I made that statement, they surprised me when they placed me under arrest, James Smith said Tuesday. "I thought it was as obvious to them as it was to me that it (the shooting) was self-defense."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 05/05/2006 10:02:05 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

What in the world were they arguing about?


2 posted on 05/05/2006 10:10:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

A bit more on this case. The article posted is nothing if not cryptic:

Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Murder trial jury hears interview recording
Smith charged in 2004 shooting death of his son



By JUSTIN BOGGS Staff Writer

VICTORVILLE — A former sheriff's deputy on trial for allegedly murdering his son initially showed remorse in an interview with detectives but later asked them what evidence they had for probable cause. A recording of the interview was played for the jury Tuesday. In the interview, which was conducted just hours after the shooting, James Smith, 57, cries as he tells sheriff's investigators he didn't mean to kill his son. "I can't believe I shot my own son," Smith tearfully told detectives. After about two hours, his tone is different when authorities told Smith they were booking him into jail for murder.

"What's your probable cause for that besides a dead body?" Smith replied.

Smith has been charged with one count of murder for the Aug. 27, 2004, shooting death of his son, Joshua Smith, 20, according to court records. Joshua Smith was found dead inside the family's home in the 13400 block of Mountain Drive in Hesperia, according to testimony heard at trial.

James Smith has pleaded innocent. If convicted, he faces 50 years to life in state prison, said Deputy District Attorney Anil Kaushal.

During the interview, investi- gators questioned James Smith about his relationship with his son and events that led to the shooting.

James Smith said that at times he and his son were very close but told detectives that on previous occasions the two had become physically violent. Following one prior altercation in the family's kitchen, James Smith said he threatened to use a weapon against his son if ever the two exchanged blows inside the house again.

"I (told Joshua Smith that I) am going to grab a bottle, a knife, a gun, whatever I can ... ," said James Smith.

"I am not going to let anyone kick my ass in my own house," he said.

James Smith told detectives that the on the afternoon of the shooting, his son arrived home in a rage and began punching him. James Smith said that after the fight, Joshua Smith walked towards the front door and began screaming at his mother. It was then that James Smith walked into another room and retrieved the .357-caliber revolver that fired the shot that killed his son, he said.

When James Smith returned with the gun, his son resumed punching him. While blocking his son's punches with his right arm, he fired the gun with his left hand, James Smith tells investigators.

"I was just afraid," James Smith said in the interview.

"I didn't want to kill him, that's for sure. I just wanted him to stop beating me."


3 posted on 05/05/2006 10:23:55 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: kiriath_jearim

I know this guy.
He is a fine human and a very easy going individual. If he says he had to pull the trigger, I would believe him. He will be in my prayers.


4 posted on 05/05/2006 10:24:23 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: robowombat

"I am not going to let anyone kick my ass in my own house," he said.

I can understand that ... if he had to shoot him ... why not the leg or arm?

This is awful.


5 posted on 05/05/2006 10:28:39 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: investigateworld

I don't know him but I can understand the situation.

I doubt too that he wanted to kill his son.


6 posted on 05/05/2006 10:29:31 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: investigateworld
In another article I read it was stated James Smith had had an brain aneurysm shortly before the fatal affray. The short term memory loss associated with having blood vessels break in the brain may explain the vague and contradictory nature of some of his remarks.
7 posted on 05/05/2006 10:33:25 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: kiriath_jearim

Does anyone know if his son was armed when this happened?


8 posted on 05/05/2006 10:47:01 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: nmh
I can understand that ... if he had to shoot him ... why not the leg or arm?

There is no such thing as "shooting to wound." It only works that way in cheesy TV shows and B movies.

The reason you pull a trigger in self-defense is because you need to make the person you are shooting at stop what they are doing this instant.

Punching a hole through any part of their body with a couple of hundred foot-pounds of energy is not conducive to their continued breathing.

9 posted on 05/05/2006 10:49:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

there are alot of good families out there whose kids have turned to drugs and have become violent and unpredictable. I don't know if this was the case but for some reason that is how I imagine it.


10 posted on 05/05/2006 11:22:23 AM PDT by annelizly
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To: annelizly

What happened to Marvin Gaye's Father?


11 posted on 05/05/2006 11:23:34 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: annelizly
I don't know if this was the case but for some reason that is how I imagine it.

A twenty year old kid has no business charging into his parents' home screaming at and physically attacking them.

At that point it is just another home invasion.

12 posted on 05/05/2006 1:21:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No man should have to be forced to kill his own son, but if what happened is true: I don't fault the father.


13 posted on 05/05/2006 2:48:19 PM PDT by thebaron512
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To: kiriath_jearim
The definition of a tragedy.

One life gone and two others ruined by a momentary act.

Society is ill equipped to adjudicate these circumstances.

Few are served regardless of the outcome of this legal proceeding.

14 posted on 05/05/2006 4:16:54 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: nmh
In addition to what E Pluribus Unum wrote, if you could shoot a handgun with enough accuracy, under intense stress, to hit the arm or the leg, that does not guarantee a survivable wound.

If the bullet cuts the brachial artery in the arm, or the femoral artery in the leg, the person is pretty much a dead man.

One human stress response is the loss of fine motor control. Your fingers lose the ability to point precisely enough to aim at an arm or a leg. That's one of the many reasons defensive shooters are taught to aim for the human center of mass, which is the torso.

Cops are taught to shoot defensively, not to shoot guns out of peoples' hands, etc. Handguns, even for the police, are a weapon of last resort.

15 posted on 05/05/2006 6:18:38 PM PDT by sig226
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To: robowombat
That could be. Jim was/is the kind of cop you'd want beside you in any situation.
After he dealt with a missing child case where the little guy was found in a abandoned refrigerator, he took vacation time and went to (at his own expense) all kinds of tracking schools.
The Sheriff would send the choppers to get him for his skills in tracking situations. (High profile cases only -T.S. for peons though)
This was probably the most steadfast guy in the world. Sad to see this happen.
16 posted on 05/05/2006 9:18:41 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: sig226
It was a tragedy that should have never happened. The articles posted in the Daily Press are not very accurate and anyone reading them probably wouldn't understand the circumstances. This father should not be in jail in my opinion. When the son attacked him for the third time that day and then was attacking his mother as well who had recently suffered an aneurysm which required brain surgery. Would you allow your son to punch his mother in the head under these circumstances? Jim is a loving father and a loving and devoted husband. His son had been drinking and using marajuana. Jim told him to get out and he had every right to. But when your being attacked and blocking blows with your right hand and in fear for your life and his wife's life, you will battle with your left hand even if your not left handed. Things happen so fast you just do the best you can to be safe.
17 posted on 05/10/2006 9:46:20 PM PDT by O_SusieQ (He tried to get help with his wife but no one in 2 yrs would help him besides family)
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