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Women Face an Unfair Choice: Career or Children
SPIEGEL Magazine ^ | Cinco de Mayo, 2006

Posted on 05/05/2006 8:15:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Reconciling motherhood with a career is not a new dilemma. But research suggests that women in Germany have a particularly hard time straddling the divide between a career and being a good mother.

Anke Jentzen didn't want to become one of these "incredibly uncool mothers" whose mental horizon extends about as far as the next playground. Instead she got a degree in marketing and quickly worked her way up the ranks of a renowned Hamburg advertising agency. By the age of 30, she had already been promoted to a management position -- she had plenty of responsibility and the dream job.

She often worked until late into the night, received a big paycheck -- and soon got sick and tired of it all. "I put 100 percent of my energy into the job, but I knew all the time that it wasn't the life for me. It's like with guys: been there, done that."

The turning point was the birth of Jentzen's child. She looked forward to it and was secretly glad to be "relieved from the responsibility that came with my job." She never talked to her husband about how their future life together might look like. "The child wasn't planned, but there was no great fuss when we found out I was pregnant. It was clear from the start that I wanted to have this child." Now Jentzen has two daughters, and she's working in an advertising agency again -- on a part-time basis, earning €400 ($504) a month.

In Germany, the birth of their first child almost inevitably forces young couples back into the lifestyle of their parents, with dad working outside the house and mom in the kitchen. That's the typical division of labor in most German households with children under the age of six.

(Excerpt) Read more at service.spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathofthewest; leftistgarbage; spiegel
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1 posted on 05/05/2006 8:16:00 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

God, what's the alternative? Become a lumberjack?

This is like saying men face an unfair choice: Either they remain single or get married.

Oy!


2 posted on 05/05/2006 8:19:39 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What does fairness have to do with it?


3 posted on 05/05/2006 8:21:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think there's enough of a body of evidence now to show that socities where women put career ahead of children experience a decline in population.

Further, these socities are quickly displaced by those societies which place children and family first.


4 posted on 05/05/2006 8:21:13 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: WLR; Thorin; Iris7; cgk; Smocker; Knitting A Conundrum; Korth; OldPossum; narses

If you'd like to be on this Death of the West ping list, please FR mail me.

5 posted on 05/05/2006 8:22:32 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Women Face an Unfair Choice: Career or Children

At least women have a choice. How many men are allowed to stay home with their kids and have someone else earn the money?


“The deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers.” – Captain Jack Sparrow

6 posted on 05/05/2006 8:22:53 AM PDT by FOG724 (A vote for Arnold is a vote for a Democrat)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just like men face an unfair choice: Work or starve.


7 posted on 05/05/2006 8:23:23 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
And the biggest reason why German women may not be having more kids: the German male's attitude on adultery, which is mentioned at this link:

While Mr. President proclaims the end of the traditional family, the Axel Springer Verlag Is running a column in the "Bild Zeitung" (Germany's most read newspaper) about adultery, saying this is a kick for every "boring" marriage and that it is normal to betray partners

Yeah, I'd really want to have kids with some jerk who thinks like this.

8 posted on 05/05/2006 8:24:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: FormerLib
Great point. Unfortunately, not all cultures that put motherhood ahead of career are good ones. Eurabia is coming their way.

The worst thing feminism ever did was to make motherhood look bad. I can understand the feminist desire to have women not be looked down on, I can understand the desire to allow women the opportunity to expand their horizons, but why, oh why, did they have to go and sully the traditional roles, hmmm?

I think this speaks volumes about the Liberal mindset. Its not about choice, its not about opportunity, alot of it simply has to do with destroying the status quo.

9 posted on 05/05/2006 8:24:43 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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Women Face an Unfair Choice: Career or Children

Yes, life is full of choices. There is simply not enough time to do everything one might wish to do. But is that "unfair"?

Consider the alternative: a life in which no options were available. Would that be any more "fair" than having choices?

10 posted on 05/05/2006 8:25:31 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: MinorityRepublican
And what are men's choices...

1) Go to work.
11 posted on 05/05/2006 8:25:37 AM PDT by last american
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To: MinorityRepublican

With all the recent reports and apparent concern over plagiary, I can't imagine how this same old garbage can be rehashed without at least a good part of it being served up as stale leftovers; better off to miss a deadline than to dirty a clean plate.


12 posted on 05/05/2006 8:25:44 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
In Germany, the birth of their first child almost inevitably forces young couples back into the lifestyle of their parents, with dad working outside the house and mom in the kitchen. That's the typical division of labor in most German households with children under the age of six.

And this is a problem because???????????????????

Why is it Leftists think that when something serves humanity well for tens of thousands of years, its somehow a bad thing?

13 posted on 05/05/2006 8:26:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RexBeach

No. Men face an unfair choice: get a job, or be a homeles bum because no woman in her right mind would marry a lazy bum.


14 posted on 05/05/2006 8:29:32 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "What's the point of Spiderman underwear if you can't show them")
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To: MinorityRepublican
What a completely stoopid article.

Career vs Children.

Suddenly children are chattel.

This is definitely lesbian thinking in the lickness of Rosie O.
15 posted on 05/05/2006 8:30:08 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Well, when you get into the article, the "unfair" part is really about Germany's excessive taxation of two-inome couples...but the magazine clearly didn't want to say something like that in the headline. ;)
16 posted on 05/05/2006 8:31:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Paradox
Unfortunately, not all cultures that put motherhood ahead of career are good ones.

Absolutely correct. This is particularly true of virtually all Islamic cultures.

17 posted on 05/05/2006 8:34:19 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is another in a long line of BS articles which imply women (or is that wimyn) are supposed to have job pander to their career and maternal whims.

I guess that stay at home husband neutering program did not work out. The feminsts were not able to convince nomal women that motherhood is eeeeevil. (though in california it appears to have succeeded in outlawing the words "mom" and "mother" as a matter of law. really)


The between the lines of this article are that children are not mere accessories. Children require a mother who is going to be THERE to help grow her child.

I also think its significat that this article from germany hides the fact that socialism is predicated on both mother and father working as slaves to the state and no stay at home mothers.


18 posted on 05/05/2006 8:34:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The important thing is that WE HAVE THE CHOICE! Some of us are happier in business suits, some are happier in blue jeans.

Oh, drat, here's the dilemma...what about those of us who do it both, work in our homes (business work, not housework...that chit never goes away!) and stay home with the kids? Hmmm....I think that's a choice too, but one that is woefully underreported.

19 posted on 05/05/2006 8:34:49 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: HamiltonJay
Overheard on a Houston Hobby Airport Approach Frequency..

Female Voice: "Houston Approach, Metro 2146 is with you for three zero left"

Approach: "Metro 2146 , you are cleared for three zero left, report the freeway"

Unknown Male Voice: "Well there goes another empty kitchen"

(asbestos suit ON)
20 posted on 05/05/2006 8:35:31 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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