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Republicans Shouldn't Run Away from Bush
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 5/3/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:59:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

RUSH: There are Republicans planning to abandon George W. Bush in droves, particularly during this election year. Bush has had it, a 36%, 33% approval rating. The guy's an albatross around their neck. "We've got to get out of there! We don't want Bush doing anything but raising money for this," blah, blah, blah, blah. There's precedent for this. By the way, a couple of pollsters saying it's a bad move for the Republicans. You know, Republicans, I'll just give you some advice right now. All of you Republicans in Congress -- including you, Chuck Hagel and Olympia Snowe and all the rest of them, McCain -- you want to win reelection in this year, if you're up?

You want the Republicans to hold the House? Unify behind George W. Bush. Just do it. Just do it. Don't try to please moderate or Democrat voters by showing your independence. Just go out there and unify and support the president on a number of issues that you can. Fred Barnes, who at the time was a senior editor of the New Republic, posted a piece in the LA Times December 9th, 1986, Ronald Reagan's sixth year. Conservatives in '86 were abandoning Reagan, the most important conservative in the history of the movement in America.

"A dozen or so conservative leaders met privately at a Washington hotel last week to discuss the future of their political movement. Edward Feulner of the Heritage Foundation was there. So were New Right strategist Paul Weyrich, several fund-raisers, two officials of the Reagan Administration and a few Capitol Hill aides. Not surprisingly, the conversation turned to President Reagan and the Iran arms scandal. Forget Reagan, they agreed. The President's a goner, his influence shattered forever. We've got to decide how to press our agenda without him. Only William Kristol, a top official of the Department of Education, dissented, insisting that Reagan should be defended.

"Thus, the Iran scandal has achieved what Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, the 1981-82 recession and the Marines debacle in Lebanon couldn't. It has caused the disintegration of the Reagan coalition, that blend of conservatives from fundamentalist Christians to libertarians that held together as the most unified single bloc in American politics for a decade. And even if the coalition is revived on an issue or two -- aid to the Nicaraguan contras, say, or funding the Strategic Defense Initiative -- as Reagan serves out his final two years in the White House, it won't be the dominant political force anymore.

"The matter can be put quite succinctly: Without Reagan the conservatives lack a popular leader, and without the conservatives Reagan lacks a broad ideological base. Both wind up losers, and the political balance of power tilts away from them. Sure, the conservatives are still sentimentally attached to Reagan, but he's no longer the same rallying point. Worse, there's no replacement in sight. Conservatives are fragmented on who should be the Republican presidential nominee in 1988. The gravity of the split is only now dawning on Reagan and his allies. Last Tuesday, Secretary of Education William J. Bennett denounced conservatives for ingratitude and political stupidity in abandoning Reagan.

"'There is no conservative agenda without Ronald Reagan,' Bennett said. 'He is the man who made whatever good has happened to this Administration happen, and people should be mindful of that.' Patrick J. Buchanan, the White House communications director, is even more blunt. 'There's an old saying that the major failing of American conservatives is they don't retrieve their wounded,' he said. 'Now's the time you take an inventory of your friends.' Not too many friends are turning up, however. Human Events, the weekly conservative publication that Reagan reads faithfully, has only half-heartedly defended him on the Iran arms deal.

"Linda Chavez, a White House aide until last winter, published a column in the Washington Post denouncing Lt. Col. Oliver North, the ousted National Security Council official blamed for diverting profits from the Iranian arms sales to the contras; she said that he was not a 'true conservative.' Bennett, who got Chavez her first job in the Administration, was so mad about this that he quickly spread the word that he was sorry he'd ever sponsored her. Why are conservatives so wary of supporting Reagan in his moment of greatest need?

"'Nobody believes in the issue, giving arms to Iran,' says Allan Ryskind, the editor of Human Events. 'Nobody's persuaded by the arguments. And while conservatives love the contras, they think that aiding them has now been jeopardized.' (Military aid was only narrowly approved by Congress this year, and the scandal over diverted funds makes renewal of aid less than likely.) Another source of wariness by most conservatives was the firing of North. 'Was North scapegoated or did he deserve to be fired?' asks Jeffrey Bell, an adviser to Rep. Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.). 'Until conservatives know that, they'll be on hold. They love North.' And though many conservatives may be inclined to stand with Reagan, they're unsure where to do that. With new revelations in the Iran scandal occurring daily, 'they don't know what ground to stand on,' says Bell.

"Complains Howard Phillips of the Conservative Caucus: 'The nature of the issue keeps changing.' Finally, there are conservatives like Phillips who always regarded Reagan as too moderate for their taste. 'We wish the best for him, but we're going to focus more on the 1988 presidential race than on helping his cause,' Phillips says. 'Reagan has turned over the substance of policy to people in fundamental disagreement with the policies he's rhetorically espoused.' Phillips is resistant to lobbying. His friend Buchanan pleaded with him over dinner last Wednesday to come to the President's defense. Afterwards, Phillips went on ABC-TV's 'Nightline' and trashed Reagan."

Is it not interesting? It seems like history is repeating. Now, I know Bush is no Reagan (don't misunderstand) in the sense of leading a movement, and I've been the first to say this. But what's interesting is they just want to abandon him, and I'll tell you, there is something in here that's really true: Conservatives do not retrieve their "wounded" from the battlefield; they abandon them. There is so much -- especially more so today than ever before, there's so much -- competition out there. Conservatism has gotten so big; it has so many people who want to claim to be the leader, claim to be the definers, that if anybody takes a hit, they're happy to let them fade away because of the competition.

You know, conservatives do have competitors within the ranks. When the competitors bite the bullet, bite the dust, they're only too willing to let them, some of them them are, just fade away. There is not a whole lot of public defense, including of the president. Now, it's true the president is not defending himself, either. But I'll tell you something, I remember this period. I was working in Sacramento at the time, and I was wondering during this whole Iran Contra stuff, where's Reagan? He was being trashed every day in the media. "Where's Reagan? Why didn't he get up there and answer this stuff?"

Some people were saying, "Because he can't! Because he can't. Because it's true," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They say the same thing about Bush. "Why doesn't he go out there and defend himself?" Well Bush's answer is he doesn't care. He's got his job to do and he doesn't think it's PR spin. It's the same thing with Cheney. Cheney's got a piece coming out in Vanity Fair, I guess, or an interview with him, and they ask him (summarized): "What about your horrible public image?" He said, "I'm not in the public image business. I guess I could improve it if I went out there and tried to improve it, but that's not what my job is. My job is not public spin. My job is not my public image," and so it's amazing, these parallels.

Yet when Ronald Reagan died, all these people who abandoned him (those still around) were muscling trying to get in the front row, trying to make sure they were all over the place to be seen as loyal, never-wavering supporters. The '86 midterm elections, you know, these defections, and people who said, "We can't run with Reagan! Why, Reagan is destroying us." There's always been this tendency on the conservative side to, when there's trouble, split the scene and run away -- and, you know, Reagan did some things to irritate conservatives. While he cut taxes he also raised them at times. You know, abandoning Lebanon after the Marine barracks was hit, that wasn't popular with people. But look how time changes things. When you go back and you look at the totality of a period of time, I don't remember during the funeral week of Ronald Reagan, other than his son and maybe a couple Democrats, but even they were pretty quiet. I don't remember any of these conservatives stepping forward to remind everybody how effectiveless and worthless and pointless the last two or three years of Reagan's term were, do you?

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To: coladirienzi

Oh my gosh! Thanks. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry and you made the decision for me [laughing hysterically].


181 posted on 05/04/2006 12:08:41 PM PDT by negril
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To: Desron13
The one huge issue for me is the Illegal Alien debacle.

I agree, it is a huge issue. But by not voting and possibly letting the liberal Dems take control of Congress is no solution to the problem.

It might not be appetizing to settle for the lesser of two evils but by putting the greater of two evils in the drivers seat is not a rational thing to do, IMO.
j

182 posted on 05/04/2006 12:09:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: MNJohnnie
Reagan apologized for Iran Contra in 1987 and America accepted his apology and his numbers rebounded above 50%.
"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower Board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind. There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses. It was a mistake."

Does Bush plan to admit anything about Iraq? I doubt it. Republicans were right to abandon Reagan in 1986. Reagan himself abandoned himself after realizing America loves to give second chances to people and that he was a generally loveable guy.

183 posted on 05/04/2006 12:09:34 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: onedoug

BUMP TO A 10,000 REPLY THREAD!


184 posted on 05/04/2006 12:10:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: sinkspur
President.

All Republicans are potential presidential candidates..

sw

185 posted on 05/04/2006 12:11:47 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: MNJohnnie
The Bushwackers at FR should think hard about what happened after the Senate flipped to the Dems in 1986. The Dem Senate majority in 1987 borked Bork and we didn't get another opportunity for a SCOTUS conservative majority for another 20 years. And we still don't have a majority today, IMHO, because Kennedy is too squishy.
186 posted on 05/04/2006 12:14:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: The South Texan
If the White House would just defend themselves more than once a month and go on offense about things like the economy, then maybe Republicans/Conservatives would not run away from him.

This WH believes they have some right to not be accountable to the public. Reagan didn't believe that. He may have been late to show himself accountable, but he did. They rule with the security that they are always right and that we should all just trust them unquestioningly, like we are stupid children and they, our hyper-competent parents.

There is an amount of haughtiness to the WH. It's like they think they are too good to engage in politics, like we don't deserve to have Bush and Cheney explain their actions. They weren't hired to do a job unsupervised. That's not how our government works-- regardless of who is in charge.

187 posted on 05/04/2006 12:16:29 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: griswold3

Wow! what a list. With all the real problems in the US and the world these are the ones being spewed by the lefties and the MSM. Very enlightening. Good post.


188 posted on 05/04/2006 12:16:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (So long Danny - gone but not forgotten)
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To: Final Authority
Remember what Rush has said about moderates (not his original thought I suspect as he has had very few) "moderates are middle of the road types, you usually find them laying on the yellow line in the morning".

Your hero, Barry Goldwater, died a moderate.

189 posted on 05/04/2006 12:18:38 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: negril; Liz; sinkspur
Life's too short to put up with crap from those who presumably share our concerns in order to gain electoral office. I've got two boys, 12 and 8, so I don't have time to jerk around with political compromises in an era of a crumbling America if I'm to have any hope of my children growing up in the country I once knew. The issues are just too monumental.

As we consider Federal district courts in which to file class-action lawsuits, we'll be looking for jurors that share similar sentiments.

While guys like Sinkspur can debate the validity of poll results all they want, our objective is to demonstrate empirically, in the form of compensatory/punitive awards, just how valid they really are. When the sh!t hits the fan, it will make the $multi-billion dollar Enron, et al settlements look like chicken-feed.

The only way to change political direction is through politics (ie money) and/or arms. The largest financial fraud in the history of the US is occurring right now - we aim to stop it through the power of the pocketbook.

190 posted on 05/04/2006 12:22:26 PM PDT by lemura
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To: rock58seg

I wish I could take credit for it.
I need a name for the latest Biden wanting to split Iraq into three areas, even though the Iraqis voted against it.


191 posted on 05/04/2006 12:24:56 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: colorado tanker
Instead of threatening the conservative base with the negative consequences why not threaten the RINO politicians. They are just as stubborn about keeping our borders open and as we are about closing them. They are just as stubborn about spending trillions of OUR money, as we are about cutting government spending.

The moderate republicans are willing to lose before they start voting on conservative legislation, and the conservative republican base are willing to lose before we continue to vote in liberal republicans. Many here take the side of the liberal republicans and still claim to be conservatives. This just cannot be true.
192 posted on 05/04/2006 12:28:09 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: negril
Do you work for the Republican National Committee? Just curious.

Yes. I'm chairman of the "Why haven't we taken out Iran, North Korea, Syria, [insert name of insane stinkhole country] so negril's kids can grow up in the country he once knew" committee.

Our latest meeting dealt with what to do with all the bodies once we do take out all this rabble.

Got any room in your garage?

193 posted on 05/04/2006 12:30:55 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: coladirienzi
The problem is that, for 80% of the population, things are really starting to suck HERE.

Really? Life's in the toilet for 240 million Americans?

How do they have time to go to all those baseball games if things are so dire?

194 posted on 05/04/2006 12:33:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Does Bush plan to admit anything about Iraq? I doubt it.

What should Bush say?

"I'm sorry we overthrew Saddam Hussein. He really wasn't such a bad guy"?

195 posted on 05/04/2006 12:36:35 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: RHINO369
I'm not taking the side of liberal republicans. The base staying home will mainly cost conservatives, like Rick Santorum.

What I just don't get is why you immigration zealots think that flipping Congress to the Dems will somehow get you more of what you want on immigration.

BTW, it sure didn't take you guys long to try to hijack this thread to immigration.

196 posted on 05/04/2006 12:37:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Spiff
"Conservatives are not running away from President Bush. President Bush is running as hard as he can away from conservatism."

Spot on Spiff. What's the point in voting for RINOs. They're no more likely to advance a conservative agenda than the Dems.

197 posted on 05/04/2006 12:37:26 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: sinkspur

Barry was never my hero, but his message lives on because it is quintessential American, unlike criminal aliens and those who advocate amnesty for those who willfully break the law.


198 posted on 05/04/2006 12:37:41 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: coladirienzi
Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen...

Or, more dramatically...


199 posted on 05/04/2006 12:37:52 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: sinkspur

ROFLMAO!!! I'll be laughing about your comment all day. :)


200 posted on 05/04/2006 12:38:37 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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