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To: Jeff Head
As to industries shutting down, if we have reached a point where entire industries are dependent on illegal activities, it is high time we pay the price to shut them down.

This is not a solution; it's the remark of a crank. The roofing industry in the Southwest is almost entirely illegals, as is the landscaping business. Shutting these down will produce a good number of disgruntled southwestern business owners who can certainly get their home builder friends and other general contractors to pressure their legislators to turn aside this recommendation. Your reference to pornography in your next sentence is irrelevant, as pornography, unfortunately, is a legal industry according to the courts.

Your arguments for deportation, while thoughtful, are not going to fly with the Senate or with the President. Deportation is not an option. I don't think even Tancredo is talking deportation at this point.

The anchor baby provision, of course, will have to be dealt with via a constitutional amendment, since the Supreme Court has declared them to be citizens. I don't think this has a chance in hell of even making it out of the Congress.

8 posted on 05/03/2006 10:04:42 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur
Call it whatever you want Sink...illegal is illegal and we as a people either stand by our laws and their enforcement or we sink into the abyss. I for one am not willing to go the latter route so I will write and share my heartfelt convictions with my representatives. You are free to do the same with your own.

As I implied, better to bite the bullet now and fix it, than to continue on a path so clearly precipitous. But that's my opinion and you are free to your own.

12 posted on 05/03/2006 10:08:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: sinkspur

How does the importation of illegal labour differ from the importation of illegal drugs?


20 posted on 05/03/2006 10:30:54 PM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: sinkspur

I can recall a day when the roofing, framing and other similiar jobs were done by Whites, Blacks and Mexican-Americans in Houston and surrounding areas. This was about 15 - 20 years ago.
The illegals then arrived en masse and undercut the existing wage structure and soon had all the jobs.
I doubt that the illegals wages are as much as the Americans were 20 years ago. (But we can have cheaper houses).
The illegals are not doing jobs Americans won't do. They are however doing doing jobs Americans can't do at the illegals wage scale.
The Employers importing these people in so that they can exploit them for cheap labor under almost slave - like conditions have the same short sighted mentality of the Slave Importers of the 18th and 19th Centuries.


21 posted on 05/03/2006 10:33:24 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: sinkspur

Who did landscaping and roofing in the Southwest 30 years ago?
It might take a little time to bring legal citizens back into these types of industries...but it would be well worth the cost.
And regarding deporation. If all of the 'free services' are taken away from the illegals...they'll deport themselves!
And maybe someday the 14th amendent will be clarified so that the so-called anchor babies will be 'anchored' to their parents citizenship.


30 posted on 05/04/2006 12:15:18 AM PDT by walldog
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To: sinkspur
Deportation is not an option.

Neither is Reconquista. These people should not be here. Period.

34 posted on 05/04/2006 2:53:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: sinkspur; Jeff Head

As they say, "A journey begins with the first step".


40 posted on 05/04/2006 3:35:34 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: sinkspur
The anchor baby provision, of course, will have to be dealt with via a constitutional amendment, since the Supreme Court has declared them to be citizens.

Would you please give me more details about the Court decision on this matter? When did this happen?

46 posted on 05/04/2006 6:21:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: sinkspur; Jeff Head
"This is not a solution; it's the remark of a crank."

You never disappoint us sink, you remain at the core of the problem, rather than supporting the only possible solution. It must be hell to be you.

72 posted on 05/04/2006 8:03:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: sinkspur
The roofing industry in the Southwest is almost entirely illegals, as is the landscaping business

And you ask the owners of either of those businesses if they would be willing to replace those workers tomorrow with LEGAL immigrants from Mexico who have been waiting patiently for their papers, if those LEGAL workers could be at the job tomorrow, would they exchange them, and you'd see how quickly this whole situation could be solved. Law breakers should not be rewarded and those who are willing to do it right should be rewarded.

73 posted on 05/04/2006 8:05:32 AM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: sinkspur

And exactly how did the roofing industry in the Southwest get that way? Are the cheaper workers actually saving consumers any money, or is it just lining the contractors pockets?

I personally belive the very first step (other than securing the border to stem the flow) is to crack down on the businesses that violate the law. Major fines in addition to criminal prosecution would take away some of the profit gained from breaking the law.

And I too believe in a guest worker program - but not as a bonus to those already here illegally. Set up a guest worker program that involves a list for workers needed, allowing exactly the number needed for the jobs open. Employers, prior to being eligible to import labor, must document the need and the efforts to fill the position with domestic workers.


84 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:34 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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