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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

WASHINGTON, May 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies. Complete results are on line at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html.

-- On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only 26 percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to 67 percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

-- While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, only 2 percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology.

-- When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: 69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told that it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement, while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

-- When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, though not as much as for the House bill: 42 percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; 50 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

-- When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and mass deportations in favor of the House bill; 28 percent want the Senate plan, 12 percent want mass deportations, while 56 percent want the House approach.

-- But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach 64 percent to 30 percent.

-- One reason the public does not like legalization is that they are skeptical of the need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

-- Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that 73 percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

-- The public also does not accept the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: 71 percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent, non-partisan research organization which examines and critiques the impact of immigration on the United States.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrationpoll; immigrationreform; invasionusa; openborders; zogby
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To: TheLion

BTTT : )


241 posted on 05/04/2006 6:09:14 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nckerr; All

"An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs."

85% has just called Bushs "jobs Americans won't do" a bare-faced lie!!!! get a clue, Bush.......your scam ain't working!


242 posted on 05/04/2006 8:03:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Once upon a time, FReepers used to deride Clinton for governing solely by focus group and poll results."


Does that mean Bush should ignore this poll?


243 posted on 05/04/2006 8:03:31 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: LAMBERT LATHAM
How many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate?

All of them, as a prelude to deportation. When we invaded Iraq, should we have only fought a percentage of the Iraqi army? When we attack Iran, should we only engage a portion of the Iranian military?
244 posted on 05/04/2006 8:07:32 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: janetgreen; nicmarlo

Yeah, 85% believe Bushs " Jobs americans won't do" is a scam!! But, but republicans won't get slaughtered in the next election....honest they won't! .......................

R O T F L M A O


245 posted on 05/04/2006 8:15:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; janetgreen; Borax Queen; Czar
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

-- Abraham Lincoln

247 posted on 05/04/2006 8:26:50 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Old_Mil

Are you proposing military occupation of the U.S.? We didn't even jail the whole Iraqi army. We took away their guns and sent them home.

How do you propose to round up all of them?

Its realistic to find and jail 20 to 25%. Jail that many and put them on chain gangs then cut off the social services to the rest and they will self deport.

Remember 95% of the Hispanics who come here had jobs at home. They just come to make more money. South America isn't like Africa people aren't starving. They're just greedy and willing to become criminals to make an extra buck.

Show them that crime doesn't pay and they will go away.


248 posted on 05/04/2006 8:30:37 AM PDT by LAMBERT LATHAM
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To: SCHROLL
"establish a data base similar to any credit bureau."

The medical professions have been doing this for years.

249 posted on 05/04/2006 8:32:12 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: nicmarlo

BTTT


250 posted on 05/04/2006 8:33:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Fining employers sounds easy in principle, but is extremely difficult in practice. The prosecution must prove that the employer KNOWINGLY hired an illegal alien, and that means proving a specific state of mind--and that is almost impossible absent an employer confessing.

If the employee does not have a copy of their SS card and a valid drivers license and/or U.S. passport then they should not be hired. If they are hired without legal documentation then the employer is libel.

Government inspections should be made periodically of employers and any employer that does not have appropriate documentation for employees should be fined heavily. Mexico does this very thing. I have first hand experience with Mexico's immigration laws because I have done consulting contracts in Mexico. They are very strict with foreign workers, we should follow their example.

251 posted on 05/04/2006 8:36:23 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: griffin
How about catch'em once, brand them and deport'em. Catch an illegal brand and execute them. Guaranteed that'll stop the wave.

Uh-huh. Hey, it even suggests a nice game for sickos--duplicate the brand and apply it to people they dislike. That person is now under an instant death sentence.

I guess you got lost in thought because it was unfamiliar territory...

252 posted on 05/04/2006 8:40:49 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Mogollon
If the employee does not have a copy of their SS card and a valid drivers license and/or U.S. passport then they should not be hired.

Most illegals provide a copy of a social security card. I know of no law that mandates people to have driver's licenses (if they do not drive) or to obtain a U.S. passport.

253 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:54 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: nckerr
There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

Of course, who did Bush caucus with last week? Why, those trying to get the Senate plan passed.

Which shows just how far left his stance is on this issue.

Support the GOP in 2006 - say no to Bush on this issue, no to the Senate, and HELL YES! to the House bill.

254 posted on 05/04/2006 8:45:12 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: sinkspur
The idea of employers "checking" a potential employees legitimacy is not all that novel. The Medical professions have been doing it for years using a national data base. Currently they can just make a phone call or get on a website and know if an employee is legit within minutes using the license number provided by the potential employee. The check is done during the interview.
255 posted on 05/04/2006 8:47:40 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Sterlis
You have seniority oh Chief of the Petulant and Annoying. To answer your question - ZERO! Round them up and give em' a cool ride on a C-130 to Mexico.

OK, and they come back in, and the problem starts all ovber again.

256 posted on 05/04/2006 8:51:23 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: SierraWasp
The boomers have never cared for anyone else, so why should anyone feel obligated to care for them???

Well, applying your standard to yourself, I think you have just expressed your intention to commit suicide before requiring any sort of elder care.

257 posted on 05/04/2006 8:53:45 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"I know of no law that mandates people to have driver's licenses (if they do not drive) or to obtain a U.S. passport."

Valid work license? Issued only after checking for legitimate citizenship or intent to become a citizen after paying appropriate fees and/or fines?

Burden of proof will be on the employer.

258 posted on 05/04/2006 9:02:53 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller
Valid work license? Issued only after checking for legitimate citizenship or intent to become a citizen after paying appropriate fees and/or fines?

Amazing how, almost two decades after the demise of communism and its system of rigorous control over its slaves (internal passports, work permits, state permission to relocate, et cetera), some folks want to put the shackles on their own wrists and ankles.

259 posted on 05/04/2006 9:12:15 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
If you want to work, get a work license proving you are a citizen. Don't need employment..don't get it.

Non citizens can go to their the nearest port of US entry and obtain theirs. Otherwise they had better come here financially independent, become farmers or business owners.

260 posted on 05/04/2006 9:19:49 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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