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To: Tolik

Weren't those demonstrating ilegales really saying, "America, help us! Our own countries stink! They are rotten! They are full of lousy governments! They are full of hopeless conditions! They are lands with no hope! They are places with no futures! Our own countries don't have enough food to feed us, jobs to occupy us, hospitals to take care of us, schools to educate us. They are cesspools reeking from wasted lives because those lives lack opportunity! Help us, America! Help us! Our own leaders, our own lands, our own homes are not worth trusting, are not worth staying on, are not worth living in. Please, help us!"

Wasn't this also part of the lesson to be learned yesterday?


8 posted on 05/02/2006 10:41:29 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: MarDav

Combine that with the oil industry nationalization in Bolivia and incoming elections in Mexico with more slide to the left. The Latin America is not going to get any healthier anytime soon. Unfortunately.


9 posted on 05/02/2006 10:47:23 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: MarDav
Weren't those demonstrating ilegales really saying, "America, help us! Our own countries stink!

If they were saying it, I missed it and it must have gone unreported because I have been following the news pretty close on this issue.

11 posted on 05/02/2006 10:53:18 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: MarDav
Are you a psychologist or mind reader?
13 posted on 05/02/2006 10:55:40 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: MarDav

I'm sure it was part of the lesson learned. But IMO, one that made clear we should have learned a long time ago to say no, to enforce our border, to punish employers of illegals, and to do thorough background checks before doleing out welfare.


17 posted on 05/02/2006 10:58:17 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: MarDav
Weren't those demonstrating ilegales really saying, "America, help us! Our own countries stink! They are rotten! They are full of lousy governments! They are full of hopeless conditions! They are lands with no hope! They are places with no futures! Our own countries don't have enough food to feed us, jobs to occupy us, hospitals to take care of us, schools to educate us. They are cesspools reeking from wasted lives because those lives lack opportunity! Help us, America! Help us! Our own leaders, our own lands, our own homes are not worth trusting, are not worth staying on, are not worth living in. Please, help us!"

Wasn't this also part of the lesson to be learned yesterday?

1. America help us..we made our own homeland stink

2. We do not take care of our homeland so it is now rotten

3. We have elected corrupt rotten officials who now are a burden and torment to us

4. We refuse to have hope or stay home and fix things

5. We have made no future for ourselves in our own land it is too difficult in our homeland..the USA is much more easier

6. We won't grow food in our country to feed ourselves

7. We can not figure out how to make our country prosperous so there are jobs there (other than the thousands the gringos have built in our homeland..but they wont hire us..but we did not study in school so arent skilled enough to be useful in our own country)

8. We refuse to take responsibility for anything wrong with our lives, drugs,prostitution,murder,rape,theft, kidnapping,drug addiction,gangs,all bad things non of which are our responsibility or fault

9.Are own leaders,our own lands,our own homes are not worth trusting...because we do not fix anything,we just move into el norte where by violence,and protest we can take your homes your land and your government and simply take over all of yours because you are too weak to hold it...to keep it and too stupid and lazy to defend your own homeland...in that sense you Americans are far far more corrupt than any other peoples in the world..

10. You will simply lay down and let us do whatever it is we feel like doing to you...and yours

11. Even you fear your own government so much and value your own possessions so much non of you dare to even make the first move against us...for fear your government will take from you what you have...so you cower at home...or stand on the street waving silly flags made in China the same ones we bought at Walmart to wave at you while we take what you are too weak and corrupt to defend...

12. Passive aggression...we defeat you without firing a shot because you are weak and corrupt in the heart...

13.Your own leaders have invited us and encouraged us..your president wants us here...and does not care what anyone things or wants except for his friends like our president Fox

14. We are strong...and united...more so than any Americans and we proved to ourselves and to you and to your corrupt officials who cower and bow before us...and do not honor you and you are too weak to anything about that either...

15. We will take over your country...your land,your homes,your children will wish to become Mexicans and disdain all things pale and European...

16. In the end we will be the biggest union of all and will then dictate wages,and benefits,and all terms of employment will rest with 'The Workers and not the owners of the means of production'

17. America will at last become the new workers of the new world paradise

That's more along the lines of what we should have learned yesterday but we didn't

imo

21 posted on 05/02/2006 11:10:39 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: MarDav
Wasn't this also part of the lesson to be learned yesterday?

Sure, if you are a socialist who thinks that the United States exists only to support the dregs of the world.

23 posted on 05/02/2006 11:13:16 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies get to vote!!!!!)
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To: MarDav; Tolik

The Fox in the Mexican henhouse banks on those illegals bringing the money back to his economy. The illegals should punish Fox and stay in Mexico.


26 posted on 05/02/2006 11:19:05 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Learning to shrug is the beginning of wisdom)
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To: MarDav

I think they were saying, "Move over, make way."


37 posted on 05/02/2006 11:42:18 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: MarDav
"Wasn't this also part of the lesson to be learned yesterday?"

Why were they flying flags of different country's primarily mexico? If they truly believe that their home countries are a cesspool why do they continue to support them?

39 posted on 05/02/2006 11:43:49 AM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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To: MarDav

No, the lesson to be learned yesterday was pretty much if you don't help us, we will help ourselves to yours whether you like it or not.


43 posted on 05/02/2006 11:49:46 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: MarDav

Study: Most illegal immigrants had jobs

The research, believed to represent the largest-ever study of undocumented migrants, contends that the vast majority of illegal immigrants from Mexico were gainfully employed before they migrated to the United States, and failure to find work in their native Mexico did not seem to be the primary reason for their departure, said Rakesh Kochhar, associate director for research at the center and author of the report.

In fact, the majority of new migrants will look for work with higher wages in industries such as construction, hotels or sales, said Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center.

Only 5 percent of the 4,836 migrants surveyed were unemployed in Mexico before moving to the United States - a significantly lower number than in past studies and theories about migrants, Suro said.

Ironically, Kochhar added, immigration status (in the United States) has little to do with finding employment. Migrants without identification had the same chance of landing a job as those with valid U.S. IDs


56 posted on 05/02/2006 12:20:37 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: MarDav

No. It's easy to protest here. The real work is back home in their own countries. They certainly have numbers enough to force change there. When they gather and march on Mexico City, they can have my respect, but not my permission to steal back onto our land. It's time for them to rise up, alright, but back in the country they supposedly love more than the U.S.


109 posted on 05/02/2006 3:25:32 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: MarDav

I understood you the first time, and I don't know why others didn't since you were articulating the obvious. Yes, they are here because their own countries stink and change there is impossible. They know that, we know that. What they don't know seems to be that if they were to win this re-conquest, they'd be right where they started. They bring with them not only the tacos and burritos, but the very stink and corruption of their culture which makes Mexico and Central America the pitholes that they are. Just look at their political leaders here for proof of this, uhm, "racist" assertion (anticipating mindless attacks from the resident Eracists here.)


116 posted on 05/02/2006 4:00:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: MarDav

>>Weren't those demonstrating ilegales really saying, "America, help us! Our own countries stink! They are rotten! They are full of lousy governments! They are full of hopeless conditions! They are lands with no hope! They are places with no futures! Our own countries don't have enough food to feed us, jobs to occupy us, hospitals to take care of us, schools to educate us. They are cesspools reeking from wasted lives because those lives lack opportunity! Help us, America! Help us! Our own leaders, our own lands, our own homes are not worth trusting, are not worth staying on, are not worth living in. Please, help us!"<<

Then WHY in the HELL were they waving Mexican flags, until they were coached otherwise?

HMMMMMM?

They want to turn my country into the stinking craphole they left, and are on their way to doing it.

No, on second thought, they are angrily marching and demanding DEMANDING it.

One lesson they should have taken away is one that every American has to learn: "Nobody OWES you anything."

Think that one over.



138 posted on 05/02/2006 8:52:43 PM PDT by DC Ripper
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