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1 posted on 05/02/2006 10:21:17 AM PDT by Tolik
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They've screwed up their own countries and now they are coming here and trying to screw up ours.


63 posted on 05/02/2006 12:38:39 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Tolik; gubamyster; HiJinx; B4Ranch

<< No one seriously wishes these [Criminal alien invaders] ill, or wants to deny [Any one of them every] opportunity to better [Himself]... >>

... and we will all join in prayer and trust that every last one of them does indeed better himself.

As soon as he, as soon as it may be facilitated, arrives back in his far-away from here, foreign, home.

BUMPping


74 posted on 05/02/2006 12:54:27 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Life's only certainties include the absolute corruption of those who collect and spend our taxes.)
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To: Tolik

Excellent article! ...Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1624842/posts?page=38#38


79 posted on 05/02/2006 1:03:23 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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What it boils down to is the blending of two cultures.

A CULTURE OF ILLEGALITY

and

A CULTURE OF ENTITLEMENT

If from direct experience one closely observes certain objective phenomenon, e.g. the individual pleadings, behavioral characteristics, attitudes, philosophy of life of individual illegal aliens, one will see this manifest when they group as a large gather.

CULTURE OF ILLEGALITY:

They broke Federal Law to be here and live daily lies. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it. (The Japanese would call this 'keshkaransa', or what we might say as 'a lotta' nerve'.)

They drive without drivers license when denied them through tougher new laws. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They work under the table and do not pay taxes. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They take a day off work even if their employers would suffer and in many cases, asked them specifically not to take a day off. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They procure and use counterfeit pieces of personal identification, including forged social security numbers. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They pay off and utilize established, dangerous human smuggling rings centered around the 'coyote' infrastructure who also bring in drugs, weapons, children for labor and women for prostitution, and regard at exactly the precise time when the USA is in a state of war (in their own literature, songs and mass folklore culture, our own Department of Homeland Security as "the enemy"). They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

And finally, one can see that if they were approached by activists to sign up and vote even though they are not citizens, they would not have the slightest guilt or shame about it.

CULTURE OF ENTITLEMENT

Demanding social services when they are not eligible. Entitlement.

Preceding all their interviews on TV with self-centered, emotional 'me', and 'I', and 'we', constantly prattling on about their own pitiful situations, while many more people globally are in much more difficult economic straits by comparison. Entitlement.

Demanding and expecting all American social services and schools will bend to their lack of English capability, and render information into Spanish. "Para Espanol, imprima el numero dos". Entitlement.

In ESL classes across the land, in with students from many other countries, constantly the ones to come unprepared, borrowing pencils without returning them, relying on classmates books by looking over their shoulders and not buying textbooks for themselves, expecting all kinds of favors and free services, and statistically showing the lowest level of assimilation and English language profiency (I have heard this everywhere in the US...what gives?). Entitlement.

Is it really any wonder if they, in an overwhelming sense, could ever become 'model citizens'. And more dangerously, when the backlash against their whining and entitlement and now threats, falls on deaf ears by most Americans and they see they are not getting what they want? (possibility for massive violence in the streets of this nation).

This is what the volatile mixture of ILLEGALITY and ENTITLEMENT will become when it comes up against Americans who will eventually come to say in greater numbers 'no more, go home now please'.

85 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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May I first propose we stop using the term "immigrant" in describing illegals? I believe the proper, legal term is "illegal alien". Illegals have no intention of immigrating.

They do not come to the USA to renounce their Mexican citizenship and become citizens of the United States. They come instead as thieves. They come to take.

The intention of the illegal alien is to work at a higher-paying job than those available to them in Mexico. It is to send as much of that money as possible, tax free, back to family still in Mexico. It is to use those services provided at the expense of American taxpayers, including free education and medical care. For a significant number of them, the intention is to commit crimes against their wealthier American neighbors.

What lesson is taught to those violating our laws by granting them amnesty? Is it a good and desirable beginning for a person to become a citizen of the United States, ahead of their law-abiding brethren, through a path of flagrant violation of those laws?

Rather than swearing an oath of allegience to our flag and our Constitution, is the new foundation and requirement of citizenship in the United States of America to be one of disobedience, disrespect and disregard toward our native citizens, our national sovreignty and our law? Is this really the kind of 21st century citizen you would like to create, President Bush?

90 posted on 05/02/2006 1:25:14 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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It seems those behind the ‘in your face’ demonstrations know about the power of protest and persistence?

It seems they believe we are going to capitulate when faced with a determined opponent? (When is the last time our citizens stood up loudly demanding the end to ‘Sanctuary City’ status, or other state and national outrages?).

It seems they believe our government is spineless (and hardly any more resolute than the French government was with their Muslim or employment riots) despite opinion polls showing 88% of Americans demand serious immigration control?

One of the motives for the May 1st walkout was about sending Americans a message about boycotting anything “Gringo.” It works both ways!!:

Boycott products of U.S. companies that aid and abet the illegal movement. Let them know why. (Thanks to MacsMind blog) they are telling us where we can shove the security of the U.S.!! For example these companies gave their illegals the day off May 1st to protest:

Tyson Foods
Perdue Farms
Gallo Wines (Sonoma, CA)

And while were at it since sources in Mexico cheered on the march:

Boycott Mexico travel (remember France?)
Boycott Made in Mexico products
Boycott Hispanic businesses here

(In the recent past, the Bank of America, regional Mexican restaurants, and a school district coordinated to aid and abet. I cancelled my credit card, and will never set foot in these Mexican restaurants in this incident).

The other motive for the march is it appears to be no longer about the nice folks wanting to come here to make money. Aside from the 'were' taking back what belongs to us,' according to TV coverage of the demonstrations, it appears the bar is being raised to demands of ‘Citizenship/Voting.’ Count on it. If they get their foot in the door over guest worker status, the second will follow. (Think DEMOGRAPHICS).

We received this warning 20 years ago from Senator Alan Simpson:

Americans are fed up with efforts to make them feel that [they] do not have that fundamental right of any people—to decide who will join them and help form the future country in which they and their posterity will live.

But if the elites and the advocates idea of giving voting rights to non-citizen majorities catches on—and don’t be surprised if it does - Americans could be faced with the ultimate absurdity of people outside the social compact making rules for those inside it."

A critic on TV a few weeks ago observed that if citizens don’t WAKE UP NOW, reality will set in fully in about 20 years. The southwest will for practical purposes be an annex of Mexico. Then, the next step, with the power they will yield will be for SEPARIST demands. Remember QUEBEC?

As added emphasis to his point, Charles Krauthammer days later said the recent demonstrations are the movements 'COMING OUT PARTY' and the implications of their power simmering below the surface.

Besides Boycott we have choices:

This? DEMAND ACTION!!! from politicians at local, state and national levels. We accuse them of fear and pandering to the illegals for their vote. Where is the action from American citizens to cause politicians to fear losing our vote?

This?


95 posted on 05/02/2006 1:37:21 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S.: Voluntary laws and policies assuring self-destruction - civilizations die from suicide)
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"the campaign has very deep and so far unidentified sources of funds"

That's the one thing I really, really want identified!


104 posted on 05/02/2006 2:25:53 PM PDT by pepperdog
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> Take the time to read this; It ought to scare the pants off you!


> We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

> Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D.Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. We used to call him "Lick Damn" but somewhere along the way "Lick Damn" wised up. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

> Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

>"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.

> Lamm went on: "Second, to destroy America, invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal, that there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds."

"Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity." As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

> "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

> "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

> "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'Pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

>"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: that because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

> In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

> There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America. Take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building:
"War is peace,"
"Freedom is Slavery," and,
"Ignorance is Strength."

> Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this
great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.


105 posted on 05/02/2006 2:27:53 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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It looks like to me that the only people who could have gotten hurt by this stupidity were the Mexican illegals and their enablers.


113 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:18 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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"This is one of those issues where the media has made up its mind and is going to shove the correct interpretation down the throats of the booboisie no matter what it takes. That being the case, the stories and headlines could have been written a week ago – and possibly were.

Exactly. Thoughtful article. Well done and clever title! : )

117 posted on 05/02/2006 4:03:12 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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"But it cannot be denied that guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands."

This is one of several things that REALLY gets to me. Who do these people think they are????

While we may consider them guests, they obviously don't. As many of them have stated verbally or in the messages on their protest signs, the illegal Mexcians think they are on land we unfairly stole from Mexico. In other words, the southeastern U.S is theirs! Their behaviour reflects that belief.

120 posted on 05/02/2006 4:09:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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Thank you Tolik for your interesting articles !


121 posted on 05/02/2006 4:14:36 PM PDT by traumer
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Yep - they've made their point. Now let's box 'em up and ship 'em out - drop shipped if necessary.


129 posted on 05/02/2006 6:40:47 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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this is good. dunno if you are on Tolik's pinglist, so: PING


142 posted on 05/02/2006 11:38:36 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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