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The Lesson of Uno de Mayo
The American Thinker ^ | May 2nd, 2006 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 05/02/2006 10:21:15 AM PDT by Tolik

Uno De Mayo has come and gone with none of the predicted effects – no drastic plunge in retail sales, no nationwide economic earthquake, the only businesses shut down the ones that agreed to do so beforehand.  But still we’re assured the marchers have “made their point”.     We can probably be excused for thinking that the point would have been made if only three marchers had bothered to show up. This is one of those issues where the media has made up its mind and is going to shove the correct interpretation down the throats of the booboisie no matter what it takes. That being the case, the stories and headlines could have been written a week ago – and possibly were.

Three conclusions can be drawn about the events of  Monday:

- that the campaign has very deep and so far unidentified sources of funds and organization;

- that the usual-suspect Leftist organizations (E.g., International ANSWER) are involved up to their ears;

- that the fight is eminently winnable.

The Left usually does well with issues that remain distant from the daily life of the average voter. Take global warming and related environmental issues – the topic is esoteric, the data opaque, none of it is easily understood without advanced training. So the average citizen feels comfortable repeating even the most outlandish conclusions. Now take a look at something closer to home: Iraq and the war on terror. Many people know someone directly affected either by terror attacks or the war itself. The information is processed on a gut level, involving the most deeply held convictions. As a result, the Left, despite massive efforts, has been unable to push support much lower than an even 50%. The same is true of immigration. There is not a element of daily life that it fails to touch: jobs, the economy, the neighborhood, crime. It matters in the most basic sense, and for that reason is not easily subject to manipulation by opinion elites. 

Virtually every move the crowd and its supporters have made – the flags, the debased anthem (it was actually made by a Brit) and this Peronist general strike – seems designed to antagonize this country’s middle class, which must be persuaded before anything can be accomplished. Do these people ever learn?

So now the line is drawn. A nation has a right to ask three things of immigrants:

- that they obey the law;

- that they learn the language;

- that they respect the citizenry.

We have a large illegal immigrant population in which many feel obligated to fulfill none of these.

No one seriously wishes these people ill, or wants to deny them an opportunity to better themselves, particularly considering the social and economic conditions many of them have fled. But it cannot be denied that guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands. The sooner we get that straight, the sooner we can move on to a just and fair solution. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalalien; illegalimmigrant; illegalimmigration; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigration; jrdunn; lessons; unodemayo
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To: La Enchiladita; devolve

Thanks, I even cropped out some 'brick' to make that little wall. Mr. Smarty Pants, devolve, told me it should be the Minute Men on our side, which is true, so 'thus' the Minute Men!


81 posted on 05/02/2006 1:06:21 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: MarDav

They have more babies when they get here... duh.

I invite YOU to produce statistics. I don't need them. I see these stinking pests everywhere I go.


82 posted on 05/02/2006 1:07:27 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Smartass

83 posted on 05/02/2006 1:09:27 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Smartass; Czar; La Enchiladita; JustPiper; Borax Queen; nicmarlo; Americanwolf; ...
Talk about having his history a$$ backwards.

He's a chump, a liar, and graduated at the top of his class from the "Bagdad Bob School of Journalism."

84 posted on 05/02/2006 1:12:27 PM PDT by kstewskis (Minutechicks ROCK!!!!)
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To: Tolik
What it boils down to is the blending of two cultures.

A CULTURE OF ILLEGALITY

and

A CULTURE OF ENTITLEMENT

If from direct experience one closely observes certain objective phenomenon, e.g. the individual pleadings, behavioral characteristics, attitudes, philosophy of life of individual illegal aliens, one will see this manifest when they group as a large gather.

CULTURE OF ILLEGALITY:

They broke Federal Law to be here and live daily lies. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it. (The Japanese would call this 'keshkaransa', or what we might say as 'a lotta' nerve'.)

They drive without drivers license when denied them through tougher new laws. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They work under the table and do not pay taxes. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They take a day off work even if their employers would suffer and in many cases, asked them specifically not to take a day off. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They procure and use counterfeit pieces of personal identification, including forged social security numbers. They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

They pay off and utilize established, dangerous human smuggling rings centered around the 'coyote' infrastructure who also bring in drugs, weapons, children for labor and women for prostitution, and regard at exactly the precise time when the USA is in a state of war (in their own literature, songs and mass folklore culture, our own Department of Homeland Security as "the enemy"). They haven't the slightest guilt or shame about it.

And finally, one can see that if they were approached by activists to sign up and vote even though they are not citizens, they would not have the slightest guilt or shame about it.

CULTURE OF ENTITLEMENT

Demanding social services when they are not eligible. Entitlement.

Preceding all their interviews on TV with self-centered, emotional 'me', and 'I', and 'we', constantly prattling on about their own pitiful situations, while many more people globally are in much more difficult economic straits by comparison. Entitlement.

Demanding and expecting all American social services and schools will bend to their lack of English capability, and render information into Spanish. "Para Espanol, imprima el numero dos". Entitlement.

In ESL classes across the land, in with students from many other countries, constantly the ones to come unprepared, borrowing pencils without returning them, relying on classmates books by looking over their shoulders and not buying textbooks for themselves, expecting all kinds of favors and free services, and statistically showing the lowest level of assimilation and English language profiency (I have heard this everywhere in the US...what gives?). Entitlement.

Is it really any wonder if they, in an overwhelming sense, could ever become 'model citizens'. And more dangerously, when the backlash against their whining and entitlement and now threats, falls on deaf ears by most Americans and they see they are not getting what they want? (possibility for massive violence in the streets of this nation).

This is what the volatile mixture of ILLEGALITY and ENTITLEMENT will become when it comes up against Americans who will eventually come to say in greater numbers 'no more, go home now please'.

85 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: kstewskis
He's a chump, a liar

Bump!

86 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: devolve

<< [CRIMINAL] ALIENS KILLED 10,125 AMERICANS IN 2004
1 EVERY HOUR - 25 DAY - 84 WEEK - 750 MONTH
4,380 MURDERS - 5,745 BY DRUNK DRIVER/KILLERS >>

How many in 2001?

Including on September 11 of that year?

And how many were killed every year by the third world barbarian LEGAL aliens who've turned Westwood's streets into Teheran's?? And New York's taxis into Islamabad's??

By those, that is, much preferred -- by our self-annointed, self-appointed and self-perpetuating post-1965 Hell-national-and-cultural-suicide-bent oligarchy and political and permanent bureauracracy elitists -- to more likely to be absorbed and homogenious, Judeo-Christian-Western-Roman/English-Law-Oriented/Human Civilization-representative immigrants??


87 posted on 05/02/2006 1:15:37 PM PDT by Brian Allen (Life's only certainties include the absolute corruption of those who collect and spend our taxes.)
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To: MarDav

That's what Nov. is for.


88 posted on 05/02/2006 1:20:58 PM PDT by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: Smartass

89 posted on 05/02/2006 1:22:02 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Learning to shrug is the beginning of wisdom)
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To: Tolik
May I first propose we stop using the term "immigrant" in describing illegals? I believe the proper, legal term is "illegal alien". Illegals have no intention of immigrating.

They do not come to the USA to renounce their Mexican citizenship and become citizens of the United States. They come instead as thieves. They come to take.

The intention of the illegal alien is to work at a higher-paying job than those available to them in Mexico. It is to send as much of that money as possible, tax free, back to family still in Mexico. It is to use those services provided at the expense of American taxpayers, including free education and medical care. For a significant number of them, the intention is to commit crimes against their wealthier American neighbors.

What lesson is taught to those violating our laws by granting them amnesty? Is it a good and desirable beginning for a person to become a citizen of the United States, ahead of their law-abiding brethren, through a path of flagrant violation of those laws?

Rather than swearing an oath of allegience to our flag and our Constitution, is the new foundation and requirement of citizenship in the United States of America to be one of disobedience, disrespect and disregard toward our native citizens, our national sovreignty and our law? Is this really the kind of 21st century citizen you would like to create, President Bush?

90 posted on 05/02/2006 1:25:14 PM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; ...
Thank you for a beautifully post...
Smiley Flag
91 posted on 05/02/2006 1:26:42 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: kstewskis

If Fox Channel 11/KTTV doesn't fire his pro-illegal alien loving ass, something is very wrong.


92 posted on 05/02/2006 1:28:17 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: texastoo

Texas,
I will grant you that you are close to the action. And I will grant you that you have seen and heard firsthand things I and others have not. But you must also grant that you have not seen and heard everything on the matter. No one is denying what you know to be true in light of what you've lived. And, granted my speculations about what they were "saying" (believing that actions speak louder than words--I was trying to interpret their actions through hyperbole) is based on my own narrow view of human nature (seasoned with my own personal views, attitudes, feelings). What did we see yesterday? A single voice? A single ideological bent? A single group? A single segment of the illegal population? Yes...and No! They were together, but they were different. Different accents, different nationalities, different reasons for being there (perhaps), etc. Therefore, yesterday is open to different interpretations. Since your experience and my own are relatively narrow ones, given the broadness of the issue, mine cannot necessarily be used to refute yours, nor yours mine.

Your perceptions about the nature of some are no doubt right on. Some are really here just to cash in, just to get freebies, just to be taken care of. They've heard all about our generosity (or, in today's terms, our foolhardy liberal ways) and they want some. I have been a school teacher in inner city schools for some time. I have seen the welfare mentality at work (uh, I have seen it at idle...you get the idea.)
Others of those folks are here because they want to annex a big chunk of America to their land. They have been stirred up by the angry Left which always does whatever it can to bring America down. These want us to vacate and give them what they think belongs to them. They will never become part of America. They hate us. Period. Within each of these 2 groups there are those who subscribe to both avenues of approach to America (bring America down by sucking her dry). There are also those whose idle ways are not so nefarious.

Still others (and this was the group I was thinking about) have come thinking they could be a part of something new, exciting, full of hope. They want to live in America. I would say they want to be Americans, but I don't know if they even know what that means. For sure, they haven't come the way immigrants have come in the past (Legally, for starters, but also willing to become American--today's immigrant comes as the Liberals will allow him--hold onto as much of your own nationalism as you want, don't you worry, America won't impose being an American on you. A while back I posted asking the question what was the difference between European immigrants and today's immigrants. The answer is the hyphen. European immigrants came and became Americans. Today's immigrants become Mexican-Americans, Korean-Americans, Nigerian-Americans. Those folks who were demonstrating yesterday were comprised, in part, by a certain percentage that have placed their hope in a liberals view of immigration--come, stay, we'll feed you. These folks will be bottom-feeders as long as they hold to this notion. My thinking was, that in order to take jobs (yawn, get ready, here we go, you've all heard this before) that no American will take, they must have left something somewhat less desirable behind. Perhaps this is granting them too much of the benefit of the doubt. But, I don't wish to paint them all with the same brush, and I have friends and family members who are recent arrivals who still subsribe to the ideals of America that make her great and believe by coming here they can find those for themselves. I believe this mindset was also on display, in part (in small part?--if it will make you feel better, in small part) yesterday.


93 posted on 05/02/2006 1:34:20 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good post. The Culture of Illegality was bred into them by the corruption of their own country and has become a natural part of their 'makeup'.

Our own liberals in our country have given them the Culture of Entitlement. Just my thoughts.


94 posted on 05/02/2006 1:34:50 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: All
It seems those behind the ‘in your face’ demonstrations know about the power of protest and persistence?

It seems they believe we are going to capitulate when faced with a determined opponent? (When is the last time our citizens stood up loudly demanding the end to ‘Sanctuary City’ status, or other state and national outrages?).

It seems they believe our government is spineless (and hardly any more resolute than the French government was with their Muslim or employment riots) despite opinion polls showing 88% of Americans demand serious immigration control?

One of the motives for the May 1st walkout was about sending Americans a message about boycotting anything “Gringo.” It works both ways!!:

Boycott products of U.S. companies that aid and abet the illegal movement. Let them know why. (Thanks to MacsMind blog) they are telling us where we can shove the security of the U.S.!! For example these companies gave their illegals the day off May 1st to protest:

Tyson Foods
Perdue Farms
Gallo Wines (Sonoma, CA)

And while were at it since sources in Mexico cheered on the march:

Boycott Mexico travel (remember France?)
Boycott Made in Mexico products
Boycott Hispanic businesses here

(In the recent past, the Bank of America, regional Mexican restaurants, and a school district coordinated to aid and abet. I cancelled my credit card, and will never set foot in these Mexican restaurants in this incident).

The other motive for the march is it appears to be no longer about the nice folks wanting to come here to make money. Aside from the 'were' taking back what belongs to us,' according to TV coverage of the demonstrations, it appears the bar is being raised to demands of ‘Citizenship/Voting.’ Count on it. If they get their foot in the door over guest worker status, the second will follow. (Think DEMOGRAPHICS).

We received this warning 20 years ago from Senator Alan Simpson:

Americans are fed up with efforts to make them feel that [they] do not have that fundamental right of any people—to decide who will join them and help form the future country in which they and their posterity will live.

But if the elites and the advocates idea of giving voting rights to non-citizen majorities catches on—and don’t be surprised if it does - Americans could be faced with the ultimate absurdity of people outside the social compact making rules for those inside it."

A critic on TV a few weeks ago observed that if citizens don’t WAKE UP NOW, reality will set in fully in about 20 years. The southwest will for practical purposes be an annex of Mexico. Then, the next step, with the power they will yield will be for SEPARIST demands. Remember QUEBEC?

As added emphasis to his point, Charles Krauthammer days later said the recent demonstrations are the movements 'COMING OUT PARTY' and the implications of their power simmering below the surface.

Besides Boycott we have choices:

This? DEMAND ACTION!!! from politicians at local, state and national levels. We accuse them of fear and pandering to the illegals for their vote. Where is the action from American citizens to cause politicians to fear losing our vote?

This?


95 posted on 05/02/2006 1:37:21 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (U.S.: Voluntary laws and policies assuring self-destruction - civilizations die from suicide)
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To: La Enchiladita

Ouch! Try the milder salsa. Having a conversation here, right?


96 posted on 05/02/2006 1:39:19 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: Czar
If Fox Channel 11/KTTV doesn't fire his pro-illegal alien loving ass, something is very wrong.

I think the good people of L.A. should inundate the station with calls and letters, saying they will boycott their sponsors. Then, contact those sponsors telling them they will NOT buy their products if they continue to advertise on KTTV.

Enough is enough. It might get their attention, if enough do it. We have a local news rag that has steadily lost subscriptions in the last few years, because they continuously tout the "struggle" of the "undocumented migrant" and is a flag runner for Gov. Napolitano and her propaganda.

At the rate they lose subscriptions, we hope to put them out of business. It's working.

97 posted on 05/02/2006 1:39:38 PM PDT by kstewskis (Minutechicks ROCK!!!!)
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To: MarDav

You are welcome to have a conversation with yourself.


98 posted on 05/02/2006 1:43:22 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
...reality will set in fully in about 20 years.

The reality is here now. But, in 20 years all those little kids they make will be grown-ups, so... I don't want to imagine it.

99 posted on 05/02/2006 1:49:31 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Lady Jag; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; JustPiper; ...

Nearly 100 years ago President Theodore Roosevelt hit the nail on the head when it came to immigration.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American… There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
—Theodore Roosevelt, 1907


ALLEGIANCE MY A$$. ILLEGALS GO HOME! YOUR'RE NOT WANTED!!!

 


100 posted on 05/02/2006 2:06:52 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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