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Giuliani Shows a Candidate's Mettle to Republicans in Iowa
NY Times ^ | 5/2/6 | Patrick Healy

Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham

Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said on Monday that he was seriously exploring whether he has "a chance" of winning the presidency in 2008, as he visited politically important Iowa and huddled with state advisers, donors to President Bush and other prominent Republicans. While Mr. Giuliani was officially in Iowa to attend two Republican fund-raisers, his behavior and remarks came close to politicking for himself. He ruminated openly about running, disclosed he was not sure what he would do if his friend John McCain also ran, and argued that if Republicans are to be a majority party, they need to accept politicians like himself who support abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.

"I've got a lot of places to go and a lot of people to talk to and a long process of figuring out whether it makes sense to run for president in 2008," Mr. Giuliani said before speaking at a daytime fund-raiser in Des Moines for a Republican congressional candidate. "I don't know the answer to that yet."

He added: "My effort this year will be to help Republicans get elected, and then, quite honestly, as part of it, saying to myself, does it look like I have a chance in 2008? And make that decision after the 2006 election."

At a fund-raiser in Davenport on Monday night, Mr. Giuliani offered a stout defense of President Bush's leadership, arguing that the economy was growing and that Mr. Bush would go down in history as "a great president."

"I don't know what we're all so upset about," he said, referring to concerns about the economy and rising costs, such as gas prices.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: Walkin Man

Please eleaborate. What would the President need to do to show he's not "out of touch?"


81 posted on 05/02/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: Jake The Goose

this conservative is a big fan of yours.

Not much of a conservative then are you???


82 posted on 05/02/2006 12:12:03 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: Mr. Silverback

True, and I'm open-minded about him, if not wildly enthusiastic.


83 posted on 05/02/2006 12:12:19 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
As nominee he would suppress the entire moral component of the Republican voter base. Do you think that's a good idea?

You know I'm pro-life, and I'll back a pro-lifer as long as McCain is not the only one in the field.

That said, don't forget we HAVE to win this one.

You see, there are many ways we can fight abortion, and some of those ways are things no pro-choice president can block. There is one way we will surely lose the War on Terror, and that is President Hillary.

84 posted on 05/02/2006 12:16:36 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: amutr22

Who cares how many people vote for Rudy the "republicrat" if he is not going to bring conservative values and leadership to the table!


85 posted on 05/02/2006 12:16:52 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Just out of curiousity, what would you do if it was a Rudy v. Hillary race?

Vote for a third party candidate. Could that put Hillary over the top? Possible. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is that from an outcome perspective, a Hillary presidency with a conservative congress fighting her tooth and nail would be preferrable to a Republican congress passing pro-gay, pro-abortion, pro-gun control legislation that is palatable to a President Rudy.
86 posted on 05/02/2006 12:17:03 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Im staying home!


87 posted on 05/02/2006 12:17:45 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: zarf
Rudy would be the most fiscally conservative president we could possibly have and I don't buy the hysteria that he would confiscate guns.

If Clinton didn't do it, you can bet Rudy won't.

88 posted on 05/02/2006 12:33:14 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: Vicomte13
They have looked 15 years down the road and see a huge Hispanic voting bloc, and have decided to pander to it.

Yep. They have no idea that if we take care of border security, not only will a lot of Hispanics be 100% enthusiastic about it, but everyone will take a secure border as a fact of life and it will not figure in voting decisions for 95% or more of the electorate.

89 posted on 05/02/2006 12:35:57 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: Bluesguy

You cannot seriously believe that Rudy, liberal as he is, would not be noticably different from Hillary Clinton.


90 posted on 05/02/2006 12:39:02 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: spunkets

If Rudy's statement on gun control is proof he will take our guns, why weren't Clinton's statements on gun control proof that he would grab our guns?


91 posted on 05/02/2006 12:40:46 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Just out of curiousity, what would you do if it was a Rudy v. Hillary race?"

Not vote.


"What would you do if it was Abe Lincoln vs. George Washington? Neither matchup is going to happen, so why debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

Vote for George Washington.


92 posted on 05/02/2006 12:43:29 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Walkin Man

eleaborate=elaborate


93 posted on 05/02/2006 12:43:34 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
So, for those who are excited about Allen, I'm genuinely curious to know just what it is that has you excited.

In spite of what the Naysayers of FReeRepublic(TM) say George Allen is one of the most dynamic speakers and leaders out there today. He's solid on his positions on the issues (but not a knee-jerk conservative like some want). He's one of the hardest working, intelligent and exciting candidates out there.

I wish he could still be Governor. But I'm glad to have him as my Senator.

94 posted on 05/02/2006 12:44:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I can't help but wonder what the fascination is.

I went to his website to see exactly what he stands for and I came away with nothing.

He has a tab that says he has Jeffersonian beliefs, but when I click on it all I see are links to donate or make pledge of support. Since there can be so many ways to interpret "Jeffersonian values", I'd really be interested in knowing exactly what it is he stands for. I worry about his stand of Second Amendment issues and am still looking for a reliable source.


95 posted on 05/02/2006 12:44:45 PM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: HitmanLV; governsleastgovernsbest; Victoria Delsoul
I had the pleasure of seeing Allen appear befuddled and bewildered by the likes of Barbara Boxer a few months back on tv.

Yes, you've told us about your ONE experience of seeing Allen dozens, if not hundreds of times.

96 posted on 05/02/2006 12:45:06 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HitmanLV

You say Jeb should go away, too many Bushes, how about if we get another Clinton? Make you feel better?


97 posted on 05/02/2006 12:46:09 PM PDT by Maumee
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To: Mr. Silverback

"You cannot seriously believe that Rudy, liberal as he is, would not be noticably different from Hillary Clinton."

Not when it comes to guns, abortion, liberal judges and every other issue that RINOS stab conservatives in the back on. At least if Hilary were prez there would be a targetable opposition.

Even if Rudy had a bad first term, Republicans would continue to support him.


98 posted on 05/02/2006 12:46:41 PM PDT by Bluesguy (bluesguy)
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To: blitzgig; babaloo
Yes, he is probably busy with his senate reelection campaign.

Exactly. All this talk about the White House is generating criticism from the RAT opponents in his Senate race.

99 posted on 05/02/2006 12:48:07 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Proud Conservative2; P8riot
I worry about his stand of Second Amendment issues and am still looking for a reliable source.

P8riot, could you help us out here?

100 posted on 05/02/2006 12:52:02 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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