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Bolivia takeover alarms powerful allies
bbc news ^ | 2 May 2006 | Robert Plummer

Posted on 05/02/2006 9:20:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos

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Bolivia has 2nd largest reserves in S. America (after Venezuela)
1 posted on 05/02/2006 9:20:28 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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Mr Morales announced the nationalisation as an end to what he called "the pillage of our natural resources by foreign companies".





Brazil could have solved that problem just by annexing Bolivia. Then they would not have been "foreign" companies. In fact, they might yet.


2 posted on 05/02/2006 9:28:53 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Morales is now talking about nationalizing mining and private land also.

Shades of Zimbabwe. Another uneducated neaderthal that won't learn from history.


3 posted on 05/02/2006 9:41:58 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Mount Athos

What will happen is what always happens when these indeginous leftist types take over a country. They will run all the knowledgable people out of the country, turn the operation over to their buddies, the gas field will cease to function and Billions of dollars of natural resources will go unused as the economy of the country tanks.

This why we need to do what is necessary to develop all of our own oil and gas resources. The Marxist that run these countries don't view the world in the same way we do, and we can not depend on them to follow a capitalist path of 'we may be Marxist but we still need to make a buck.'


4 posted on 05/02/2006 9:44:47 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Mount Athos

The "Zimbabwe Zyndrome" is spreading faster that ebola in a crowded hospital...........


5 posted on 05/02/2006 10:01:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: Mount Athos

The companies should leave things as they found them.


6 posted on 05/02/2006 10:04:44 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: redangus

China will do it


7 posted on 05/02/2006 10:04:58 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: Brilliant
I don't blame Morales. Look how we got into an uproar when we found out a UAE company was about to take control of 6 US ports. Another example is when China attempted to buy a majority stake in Unocal.

Other countries just handle it a little differently. Russia for instance sets a fixed price, such as $37 per barrel, for all foreign oil companies and then taxes any amount over at 75%.
8 posted on 05/02/2006 10:35:16 AM PDT by baltoga
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Er, that's not the same. Nationalizing an industry is a long way from having reservations about certain aspects or events in the world of free trade.

Morales seriously believes that no one should buy Bolivia's natural gas, and that the company is going to make its living producing coca leaves.


9 posted on 05/02/2006 11:26:09 AM PDT by livius
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I was wondering about Brazil's reaction. IIRC, the Spanish company Repsol company has an Argentine partner or component. I wonder what the Argentines will have to say? Both Argentina and Brazil have leftists in charge, but I don't think they're nutcases the way Morales and Chavez are.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 11:29:56 AM PDT by livius
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In all, about 20 foreign companies are affected, including BP, British Gas, ExxonMobil and Total.

Punitive terms?

Under the terms of the nationalisation, they are required to agree new contracts with the state-run firm, Yacimientos Petroliferos Fiscales Bolivianos (YPFB), within 180 days.

In the meantime, Bolivia will keep up to 82% of their revenues, allowing them just the remaining 18%.

Maybe all the folks who bray about "excess profits" would like to operate in this business environment.

This is not the first time this has happened to oil companies, this sort of crap goes way back.

11 posted on 05/02/2006 11:37:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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If we weren't so damned dependent on hydrocarbons.. can you imagine how irrellevant the poorest and most ignorant parts of the world would be???

Just an observation.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 11:38:18 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I disagree! In the USA we wanted control and management of all ports, similarly Bolivia wants control of oil production and distribution. Both decisions keep transnationals from controlling our vital interests.
13 posted on 05/02/2006 1:20:19 PM PDT by baltoga
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Only DPW was prevented from operating a US port. Other foreign owned companies operate in our ports, including Hutchinson Whampoa.


14 posted on 05/02/2006 1:44:39 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Mount Athos
In the meantime, Bolivia will keep up to 82% of their revenues, allowing them just the remaining 18%.

They likely will just shut down the production completely...rather than run in the red for these Reds.

Let's see how well these cretins produce their own oil...and just how and where they will get it marketed... don't most the pipelines run into Brazil?

15 posted on 05/02/2006 2:23:57 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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"Morales is now talking about nationalizing mining and private land also."

Of course. What can you expect from a communist but communism?

Bolivia and Venezuela have joined China, North Korea, Cuba, and the Islamofascists as enemies of the free world.
16 posted on 05/02/2006 2:32:32 PM PDT by DesScorp
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How many times do we have to fall for the same routine of Lucy Van Pelt fooling Charlie Brown with the football? This is classic Marxist deception, as when Lenin conned Western investment back into Russia after he declared the communist experiment a failure...but kept the communists firmly in power.

But at the same time, he needed to reassure Brazilian investors - especially Brazil's state-owned oil and gas giant, Petrobras - that he would take a business-friendly approach.

Petrobras, which has invested more than $1bn in Bolivia and controls 45% of its gas production, was duly placated. The company's boss, Jose Sergio Gabrielli, said he expected an excellent business climate under Mr Morales.

The only twist here is that it was done to FELLOW LEFTISTS. Hoist by their own petards!

But still, it is cold comfort for us, with these movements being mightily fueled by Chinese political/military machinations in the background and their covert influences with these 'allies.' Can't believe we still allow the Chi-Comms to get ANY foreign direct investment to enable their tyranny to strengthen...

17 posted on 05/02/2006 2:35:47 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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Silver stock went south today when rumors started about this guy nationalizing the mines. They rebounded later whne he said he's only tas the bejesus out of them.


18 posted on 05/02/2006 2:39:14 PM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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tax=tas


19 posted on 05/02/2006 2:39:33 PM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Mount Athos

Fox just was covering this. Armed troops are standing out in front of buildings.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 2:41:20 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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