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A Judeo Christian Approach to Illegal Immigration
Idaho Values Alliance ^ | 05/01/2006 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 05/02/2006 7:08:48 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt

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1 posted on 05/02/2006 7:08:49 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Keyes2000mt

Well said....

"Many immigrants from Mexico believe that the American Southwest – including parts of Idaho - rightly belongs to Mexico. They believe that the reclamation of “Aztlan” will come through the sheer force of numbers. They have no desire to assimilate into American culture; in their minds, we are the illegals who should be required to leave.

Our national slogan is “E Pluribus Unum,” “Out of many, one.” We have found unity as a people by merging our original ethnic identity into a new and higher identity as simple, un-hyphenated Americans.

A recent Gallup Poll found that 81 percent of us think illegal immigration to the United States is out of control. Now is the time to act, to protect our security, our economy, our values, and our national character."


2 posted on 05/02/2006 7:12:29 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9
Israel has the "palestinian problem" and the U.S. has the "mexican border problem". Israel is building their wall....LETS BUILD OURS NOW !
3 posted on 05/02/2006 7:20:57 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: Keyes2000mt
I definitely do not endorse their "love the alien among you" comparison with our illegal and criminal aliens. These people came here, knowingly breaking our laws because they had heard that the U.S. did not enforce our laws against illegal immigration.

That is hardly the fault of the citizens of the United States - this was an illegal collusion between our elected leaders and businesses who desire labor under the radar of the government.

When the American South engaged in slavery, America decided that it was not correct and chose to end that practice, but it took a violent Civil War to do so.

What our government in collusion with businesses, are conducting is a way to supply a continual "sweatshop" supply of underage serfs with little to no education to work until they either drop dead or get educated and fine other jobs to fill. Yet the business demands for this same unskilled labor will continue, so there will be no end in sight until the entire population will look like countries where there are the wealthy elites and the unskilled, uneducated underbelly, i.e. China.

This is more of that "One World Order" that the No Borders crowd have seduced Americans to accept as "humane treatment to our undocumented workers."

This is not American and certainly NOT Constitutional and should be stopped immediately.

4 posted on 05/02/2006 7:23:43 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: zerosix

It would seem to me that the most compassionate action would be to help improve the conditions IN MEXICO. And, from a Christian standpoint, we are tasked with helping people ourselves, not getting the government to do it.
susie


5 posted on 05/02/2006 7:26:32 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Keyes2000mt
I think we should make a point by trading one for one -- one legal immigrant waiting list person for one illegal immigrant. We should finance the transportation of the illegals with the fines we impose on the businesses and individuals that hired the illegals in the first place. Also, leave the returning-to-Mexico illegals with, say, $1000 for food. I mean, we did dangle the carrot. Still, they broke the law along with their employers. So if the workers are so necessary, trade one for one. Give us the legal immigrants who have waited.

Until you fix Mexico you will never fix this problem.

6 posted on 05/02/2006 7:29:02 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: brytlea

But, gasp, that would require people to actually "put themselves out" in a significant manner. Now, they can preach and preen for the cameras as opposed to making any real sacrifices.

I call them CINOs, Christians in name only.


7 posted on 05/02/2006 7:31:13 AM PDT by bordergal
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To: bordergal

LOL I will have to remember that one!
susie


8 posted on 05/02/2006 7:33:07 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

I do exactly that. My husband and I have gone on short term mission trips to Equador to help those poor people. They are so very sweet and loving but are totally lacking in any decent government and quite at the mercy of leaders who exploit them.


9 posted on 05/02/2006 7:36:11 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Burn 'em at the stake!!!


10 posted on 05/02/2006 7:38:11 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: zerosix

And that is the problem, and it probably won't be solved in our lifetimes. At this point I am only able to support our church's missions financially. God Bless you for going.
susie


11 posted on 05/02/2006 7:42:54 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: kingattax



I read the Minutemen are proceeding with this idea!


12 posted on 05/02/2006 7:46:21 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: bordergal
" I call them CINOs, Christians in name only."

We are living in a post-Christian country, now. Christianity is no longer the common culture of our people. It has been removed by a concerted, deliberate attack by the socialists and communists who have always known that they must remove Christ before they can succeed in winning power in this country.

All socialist countries must subordinate Christ, and religion, to lowest status so that the people will seek government for their answers not God.

It is Christians who have been pacified, emasculated and wimpified so that they are too afraid to act for their own beliefs.

This has been the goal of the public education system, mass media and Hollywood. They have largely succeeded.

There was a time when Christians would have risen up in armed revolt against the tyranny of our government, and rightly so.

Jesus was no pacifist.

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." -- Matthew 10:34+

" We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death." And how can we love our brothers when we would allow a tyrannical government to destroy their liberties.

And he who loves his socialist, tyrannical government more than his brother will surely be damned to hell.

It is worth giving our lives to ensure that our brothers, and our children will grow up in a free society, free to worship Christ. Free to return this nation, volkuntarily, back to a Christian nation for the sake of all.

13 posted on 05/02/2006 7:57:09 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: dcnd9
Our national slogan is “E Pluribus Unum,” “Out of many, one.” We have found unity as a people by merging our original ethnic identity into a new and higher identity as simple, un-hyphenated Americans.

I think of immigration as a seasoning, like salt (or other preferred seasoning), added to a salad. If you control the amount added, it makes the salad better, but it you don't control it and poor the whole bottle on, it makes it worse.

14 posted on 05/02/2006 8:45:41 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Keyes2000mt

Good points.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 9:10:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: zerosix

We build the wall, the UN and Russia and China will cry bloody fowl.


16 posted on 05/02/2006 9:17:34 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: nosofar
It seems to be illuminating that our government seems to be AGAINST more legal immigration, especially the proscribed kind, i.e. educated professionals with a clear visible means to support themselves and a basic construct of our language and IN FAVOR OF millions of unskilled illegal labor with no grasp of our language and no visible means to provide real basic services for themselves.

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS POLICY?

17 posted on 05/02/2006 9:21:47 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: Thunder90
Make it a fence..we are not at war with Mexico.

I know...locks and fences are meant to keep the honest out. But a fence with an alarm would be quit effective for our purposes.

18 posted on 05/02/2006 10:01:28 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Keyes2000mt

Midwest News
Minn. Officials Look for Ways to Teach Immigrants What Tornado Sirens Mean

May 2, 2006

Officials in Minnesota are looking for ways to teach new immigrants what tornado sirens mean.

Mao Thao had no idea when it meant the first time she heard a tornado siren go off. The recently arrived Hmong refugee spoke no English, and she grew terrified when the loud wailing erupted.

Thao thought she was about to be arrested. She dropped her bicycle and ran all the way home. "I thought the cops were coming after me,'' she said.

As tornado season returns, emergency officials statewide are increasingly concerned that some of the state's newest residents may not know that the loud wail means seek shelter immediately.

Many immigrants have no idea what a tornado is or how deadly Minnesota storms can be.

Selena Lee of the Neighborhood House community center in St. Paul said one of her clients was killed in a thunderstorm last year in Minneapolis. He was unaware of the dangers of being outside in the storm. He left his car and died when he was struck by a falling tree branch.

Lee said the man was one of many Hmong immigrants who don't know what to do during a storm or what the sirens mean. In many cases, new immigrants speak very little English so warnings on the television or radio don't help.

In Stearns County, officials are preparing for a severe weather drill designed for the growing numbers of recent immigrants.

The drill is planned for late May at a St. Cloud-area mobile home park. It will test how management and emergency workers are able to communicate with the estimated 300 residents who don't speak English.

Bel Clare Estates has more than 800 residents and would be one of St. Cloud's most vulnerable areas if a tornado hit, said the park's general manager, Vern Larsen. He said the residents don't always use the park's shelters.

Marv Klug, Stearns County director of emergency management, said local media have been contacted to develop Spanish-language announcements for TV and radio. But different approaches may be needed with other languages, Klug said.

The Somali language, for example, has a relatively new written form, so literacy rates vary, Klug said. County officials plan to identify major contacts in an immigrant community, such as restaurant owners, to start a chain of disaster communication.

In Redwood County of southwestern Minnesota, where many Hmong work in food processing plants, officials are taking a different approach.

County officials are working on translating severe-weather brochures into Hmong, Sheriff Rick Morris said. But, he said, the most effective way to get out information is through the students who speak English and can bring that information home.

Some immigrant groups are also getting involved to help alert new residents about severe weather.

Thao, the woman who was frightened when she heard her first tornado siren, now works with Emergency & Community Health Outreach (ECHO). She has hosted several short public TV programs in Hmong. One tackled severe weather. One bit of advice she gives: Look at the colors on radar screens.

With such a vast array of cultures in the state, new immigrants and refugees can come up with unusual misinterpretations of the warning sirens.

Abdi Warsame, a Somali refugee who works at the Brian Coyle Community Center in Minneapolis, said a woman he knows thought the first tornado siren she heard was one of the great horns signaling the apocalypse.
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Find this article at:
http://www.claimsguides.com/news/midwest/2006/05/02/67834.htm


19 posted on 05/02/2006 11:16:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: zerosix

Correct and the fact that leftist church groups, Cardinal Mahoney in LA and other radical Catholic priests are equating these illegals and all Latins as somehow little Jesuses clothed in Third World illegality, does not make a true Judeo-Christian theological statement. My blog at abundanthope.blogspot.com/ made just this point yesterday.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 12:37:49 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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