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Leaders prefer outer loop to toll road
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | April 28, 2006 | Gordon Dickson

Posted on 04/28/2006 4:27:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

North Texas leaders want a giant outer loop around the Metroplex for cars, trucks and trains, rather than allowing the state to build a toll road bypassing the area.

The proposed loop could be about 200 miles long — nearly triple the length of the Capital Beltway in Washington — based upon conceptual drawings by the North Central Texas Council of Governments. Motorists who took the loop would likely pay tolls.

It’s being pitched by North Texas leaders as an alternative to the Trans-Texas Corridor, a privately funded toll road that according to preliminary plans would steer automobile traffic well east or west of the Metroplex. Area leaders worry that such a bypass would pull jobs away from the urban core and into the countryside.

Tarrant County politicians and business leaders, who until now have been careful not to speak too critically of Trans-Texas, say they’re ready to conduct a vocal campaign against the plans unless changes are made that reflect the local preference for a mega-loop. The change of tactics came earlier this month, after state officials unveiled drawings still showing that Trans-Texas route as a Dallas-Fort Worth bypass.

“We don’t want to leapfrog undeveloped areas and create pockets of problems,” said Tarrant County Commissioner Glen Whitley. “That’s just not acceptable, and not worth it to us. We want to be organized in our growth.”

The proposed loop would wrap around Fort Worth, Dallas, Denton, Mansfield and more than 100 other cities in Tarrant, Wise, Denton, Collin and Dallas counties. It would tie into existing roads in those areas.

As for Trans-Texas, the Texas Department of Transportation will hold more than 50 public hearings statewide this summer, so residents can learn about the plan to criss-cross the state with toll roads and high-speed rail lines. The most likely scenario is that Trans-Texas would be built east of the Metroplex, although an alternate route west of the Metroplex is still an option.

There’s still time to change the Trans-Texas study area and bring the toll roads closer to the heart of the Metroplex, transportation department spokeswoman Gabriela Garcia said.

“Right now, the question is, how do you connect Oklahoma to Mexico,” Garcia said, adding that the first tier of a two-tier environmental study will continue through mid-2007. “We really want to connect to the city centers, we just can’t do it yet. Patience at this point is still key. Give us time to get through tier one and answer all those questions, and then we’ll work on ... the justification for moving it further north or south.”

An outer loop isn’t really a new idea. Plans to build a Loop 9 around the greater Dallas area go back to the 1950s and are still in the region’s long-term plans.

But until now, planners just didn’t think another circular road would be needed until the mid-21st century.

That began to change four years ago with the arrival of Trans-Texas, Gov. Rick Perry’s plan to eventually criss-cross the state with a new network of super-wide toll roads, rail lines and utility corridors.

The first component of Trans-Texas, a $6 billion leg from San Antonio to North Texas, is being planned by private consortium Cintra Zachry.

North Texas is no stranger to loopy roads. In Tarrant County, there’s heavily traveled Loop 820. In the Dallas area, there’s Loop 12, LBJ Freeway and the President George Bush Turnpike.

Each was added as the Metroplex grew outward.

Not unlike an arborist determines a tree’s age by counting the rings in its trunk, a motorist can learn about a region’s traffic history by observing its highway loops.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bushturnpike; dallas; fortworth; i35; ih35; interstate35; lbjfreeway; loop12; loop820; loop9; metroplex; outerloop; rickperry; transtexas; transtexascorridor; ttc; ttc35; txdot
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1 posted on 04/28/2006 4:27:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; anymouse; AprilfromTexas; ...

Why don't they just build both the Outer Loop AND the TTC corridor? Just a thought...

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 04/28/2006 4:28:50 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Walk it off, Snack Fairy!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How can a loop around the metroplex accomplish the same thing as a toll road and rail running from N Texas to San Antonio? And if the TTC is privately funded will these people proposing a loop have any real say?


3 posted on 04/28/2006 4:50:27 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Instead of BS 5yr Socialist planning, why don't we open it up to good old fashioned Capitalist planning?

TT
4 posted on 04/28/2006 4:58:15 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"“Right now, the question is, how do you connect Oklahoma to Mexico,”

Would would Oklahoma want to be connected to Mexico? Aren't enough states in the Union suffering from just bordering Mexico?

5 posted on 04/28/2006 5:03:12 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for the ping!

It’s being pitched by North Texas leaders as an alternative to the Trans-Texas Corridor, a privately funded toll road that according to preliminary plans would steer automobile traffic well east or west of the Metroplex. Area leaders worry that such a bypass would pull jobs away from the urban core and into the countryside.

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That is, indeed, hilarious!! Big-city "leaders" are now whining about the very same devastating economic effect that I have been predicting the Trash-Texas Con-job would have on hundreds of smaller, rural towns all across Texas!

6 posted on 04/28/2006 5:41:33 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 04/28/2006 10:01:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
In the Dallas area, there’s Loop 12, LBJ Freeway and the President George Bush Turnpike.

They left out Belt Line.

8 posted on 04/29/2006 12:46:52 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


9 posted on 04/29/2006 3:08:34 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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