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To: justshutupandtakeit

"I was obviously referring to nitwit projections "

Well the only thing that comes to mind is the comment that our nuclear advantage in 1945 was meaningless.

That is absurd - we had the advantage for 4 years until the Russians stole the secret.

It is during those 4 years that America could have crushed communism as we should have crushed Hitler in 1933. It would have saved 50 million lives and prevented the problems in the middle east.

We conquered Germany and Japan and turned them into righteous societies - the same could have been done with Russia.


309 posted on 05/08/2006 10:42:09 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

"Well the only thing that comes to mind is the comment that our nuclear advantage in 1945 was meaningless.

That is absurd - we had the advantage for 4 years until the Russians stole the secret."

Hmm, "We"? Don't you mean "You" because at the time it was "We" you and your ilk were in Ukraine supporting the communist regime.

Furthermore, here's the leader of the efforts to steal our atomic secrets. As a Ukrainian you must be proud:

"Pavel Sudoplatov (1907 - September, 1996) was a member of the intelligence services of the Soviet Union who rose to the rank of major general. He was involved in several famous incidents of the early Cold War, including the assassination of Leon Trotsky, and the Soviet espionage program which obtained information about the atomic bomb from the Manhattan Project.

He was born in Melitopol, in Ukraine, to a Russian mother and a Ukrainian father. After his father died, leaving the family in poverty, Sudoplatov joined the Red Army in 1919, at the age of twelve, fighting in the Russian Civil War. Through work in signals, he became associated with intelligence work, and was eventually promoted to the Secret Political Department of the Ukrainian OGPU in 1927."

See, it'd be much easier and historically and ethically factual if you could admit that it was SOVIET crimes committed during SOVIET communism. It's your choice - you can continue to attempt to repaint it as solely Russian involvement and the history books, archival documents, and facts (including testimony by the Ukrainians who were Soviets) will prove that Ukrainian communists willing and enthusiastically supported the Soviet regime and enjoyed the "fruits" of being in the Slavic brotherhood.


314 posted on 05/08/2006 11:28:33 AM PDT by Romanov
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To: spanalot

You simply do not know what you are talking about. Your inability to grasp geopolitical realities and the arrangement of power at the end of the war overwhelms your desire to get outside the world of pretence. We are living in a world of REAL situations which do not allow such fanatasies as you labor under to become anything more than that.

We were INCAPABLE of removing Hitler in 1933 just as we were INCAPABLE of invading the USSR for any positive purpose in 1945. Patton's bluster does not change that.


318 posted on 05/08/2006 11:40:15 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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