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Semi Hits College Van, Killing 5 (and solution to the problem)
CNN.com ^ | Thursday April 27 | AP

Posted on 04/27/2006 5:14:22 AM PDT by Flightdeck

MARION, Indiana (AP) -- A semitrailer crashed through a median on Interstate 69 and collided with a college van Wednesday night, killing five people, police said.

The collision peeled open the side of the van, and several occupants were ejected, said state police Sgt. Rodger Popplewell. The semi driver was among five injured.

About 2 miles of interstate in Grant County, midway between Fort Wayne and Indianapolis, were closed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: monorail; motorspeedway; sheblyville; taylor; tayloruniversity
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To: kanawa
"The smart money is on slingshots."

I'm leaning more towards trebuchets...
21 posted on 04/27/2006 5:42:51 AM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Flightdeck
One day, however, somebody who has enough power is going to have a kid get killed minding his own business, and the debate will begin: do we really have to accept 80,000 fatalities per year on our roads??

So true. It wasn't until the Kennedy's lost a premie that research into how to better save them was really ramped up. It often seems that until someone rich and famous goes through what we little peons have to deal with every day, that something gets done.

Too bad you've been getting ripped for you comments. I don't see that there is any call for it. That sort of thing had been envisioned back in the 60's. I remember seeing artists representations of life in the *future* ( read: now) and it was all very science fictiony but that sort of thing was addressed but never happened, most likely for the reasons you mentioned.

22 posted on 04/27/2006 5:44:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Blueflag
"If you think of the nation's roads as a factory/warehouse floor, and all the vehicles as work-in-process and finished goods moving from origin to interim to final location(s), then we have the software to do it. FedEX and UPS do it today."

Somehow, I don't see a fragile automobile and her occupants capable of surviving being "drop-shipped" several times during its journey across town.

23 posted on 04/27/2006 5:47:08 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Flightdeck
Many thousands of people are killed every year by drunks, losers, idiots, inconsiderate freaks, and criminals.

Yes and just as many if not more, are killed by what used to be called "accidents".

80,000 fatalities per year on our roads

Never happened. The average is about 45,000, but there's nothing like hyperbole to make a point.

24 posted on 04/27/2006 5:50:42 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: dawn53

Thanks for posting the Taylor site. These students and their families deserve our prayers,sympathy and respect.
Of the several states I have lived in, Indiana holds a special place in my heart. Hoosiers are the most hospitable people I have ever met. I'm sure this tragedy is being felt by the entire state.


25 posted on 04/27/2006 5:50:58 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Flightdeck

you don't happen to teach at UCONN do you??? You sound like one of my professors from last semester...


26 posted on 04/27/2006 5:51:56 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: Flightdeck
Let's set the top speed of all autos to 15 mph. It's a lot cheaper.

Why don't we give everyone a tank. An 18 wheeler would be no match.

Let's make all buildings out of non-flammable material, like the tiles on the space shuttle.

Let's make it illegal for people to leave their homes. Everyone could telecommute to work. It would be a lot safer.

Sure, if we spend a hundred gazillion dollars we can eliminate 99% of all accidental deaths. Where can we get this money? We'll just print it. Instead of taxing us, the government can print $1 million dollar bills and spend them to make all of our dreams come true. Genius!

27 posted on 04/27/2006 5:52:05 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: gas0linealley
I think the best solution to our high fatality count and oil use is lower speed limits and alot less horsepower.

how about consistant speed limits? every accident i've seen on the highway has been either idiot or speed differential. setting trucks with a 55mph max and cars with a 70mph speed is just begging for accidents.
28 posted on 04/27/2006 5:52:29 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: azhenfud

IT's not about the physical handling of the item, it's about managing, locating, directing, safeguarding, propelling it from-to/ on-time/ handling exceptions etc. etc.

Obviously you were being sarcastic, right? ;-)


29 posted on 04/27/2006 5:52:37 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Flightdeck
I'm not picking on you. I'm proposing something: Outlandish costs (particularly liberal ones) have never stopped them from going forward before...

Submit it to some Soros-funded eco-hugging group and ask for seed money to flesh it out for a feasibility study. Spend a little, pay yourself an abundant salary, and employ some friends. Then declare that you didn't think it would work, but maybe someone else can years from now when technology catches up. Let that seed germinate within them for a while, and eventually someone else will study it again. And the icing on the cake is: it wastes money that could be used to forward other liberal causes. :)

30 posted on 04/27/2006 5:54:02 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Flightdeck
Texas, home of the country's worst drivers

I surmise that you've never driven in Massachusetts.

31 posted on 04/27/2006 5:54:39 AM PDT by katana
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To: Flightdeck
80,000 fatalities

And what year dose this statistic illustrate?

32 posted on 04/27/2006 5:54:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: Flightdeck

"Because they are tracked."

Tell that to Casey Jones


33 posted on 04/27/2006 5:55:17 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: metesky

"Yes and just as many if not more, are killed by what used to be called "accidents"."

I see, so these are not tragedies? They are preventable.

"The average is about 45,000"

Well, in that case, never mind.

Apparently, the mere suggestion of a way to prevent thousands of deaths and reduce dependence on foreign oil at the same time pisses some people off. Maybe these are the people who floor it to the front of the off-ramp line, cutting 150 people and causing all the wrecks in the first place.


34 posted on 04/27/2006 5:57:18 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: Blueflag
Doable, but not likely with current government 'leaders'.

No, not these leaders. What we need is Joe Stalin. Yeah Get a Stalin clone up there in Washington. Of course the economy required to install and support such a system will rapidly disappear under Mr. Stalin but, as with all liberal dream projects, it is the thought that counts, not the results, no matter how inevitible.

35 posted on 04/27/2006 5:58:13 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: arthurus

"And what year dose this statistic illustrate?"

It seems to be closer to a "two-year" statistic as Metersky pointed out. Doesn't change my point.


36 posted on 04/27/2006 5:59:17 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: gas0linealley
Used to drive a Pete myself, and I always wondered why cars are designed to go 140 when the speed limit is 65. Why not just mandate tamper proof governors set at what ever the speed limit is???? Should be pretty easy to do with todays computerized ECM's. Probably a line of code...
37 posted on 04/27/2006 5:59:34 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...close the borders! N O W !!! Semper Fi !!)
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To: theDentist

"Outlandish costs (particularly liberal ones) have never stopped them from going forward before... "

I believe a private corporation could actually make a great deal of money implementing such a system. Enormous initial investment, yes, but an investment nonetheless. Maybe that's why I'm getting attacked. I should specify that this could be a private venture for profit, not a government welfare program.


38 posted on 04/27/2006 6:01:42 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: Flightdeck

And in a totally centralized system, no matter how scientifically controlled there will be errors, yea even unto snafus, in a totally centrally controlled system such an error will kill great gobs of motorists and others all at one time instead of in thousands of separate crashes. I suppose that would be somehow more efficient or something.


39 posted on 04/27/2006 6:02:17 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: arthurus

That's your problem, you think this is a proposed government welfare project, when it could be a profitable private venture. Joe Stalin? Get a grip.


40 posted on 04/27/2006 6:03:06 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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