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Semi Hits College Van, Killing 5 (and solution to the problem)
CNN.com ^ | Thursday April 27 | AP

Posted on 04/27/2006 5:14:22 AM PDT by Flightdeck

MARION, Indiana (AP) -- A semitrailer crashed through a median on Interstate 69 and collided with a college van Wednesday night, killing five people, police said.

The collision peeled open the side of the van, and several occupants were ejected, said state police Sgt. Rodger Popplewell. The semi driver was among five injured.

About 2 miles of interstate in Grant County, midway between Fort Wayne and Indianapolis, were closed.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: monorail; motorspeedway; sheblyville; taylor; tayloruniversity
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I post this to discuss the future of ground transportation. All of us know somebody or have ourselves been in a serious accident. Many thousands of people are killed every year by drunks, losers, idiots, inconsiderate freaks, and criminals. Here in Texas, home of the country's worst drivers (I typed "world's worst" at first but then remembered I'd driven in Moscow), there is an injury accident between my work and home eight days out of the week.

We also have that little oil problem.

One solution which will never happen: Electromagnetic transportation. Same principle as the high speed trains, but everyone has to go purchase their own little "car". It has no internal combustion engine, just magnets. The individual can retain their own little space and privacy, and the car companies can transition to the new industry. Their is no gasoline. Power is supplied by centralized plants. Nuclear power plants could supply the energy to run local grids. We either pay a fee to ride, or it's a tax.

And there are no fatal accidents. Each car follows the grid to its destination all the way from their driveway. It is impossible to crash through a median and kill five innocent college students.

Why it won't happen: - $ Billions of infrastructure per city, not mention connections - Oil companies and car companies don't really think it's a good idea. - It would be really difficult...

One day, however, somebody who has enough power is going to have a kid get killed minding his own business, and the debate will begin: do we really have to accept 80,000 fatalities per year on our roads??

1 posted on 04/27/2006 5:14:23 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: Flightdeck
Step on up...


2 posted on 04/27/2006 5:17:25 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Flightdeck
Like any industrial transformation idea THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE, it requires doggedly determined leadership, an unassailable champion, and boatloads of money.

If you think of the nation's roads as a factory/warehouse floor, and all the vehicles as work-in-process and finished goods moving from origin to interim to final location(s), then we have the software to do it. FedEX and UPS do it today.

It is a logistics mgmt + infrastructure challenge. Doable, but not likely with current government 'leaders'.
3 posted on 04/27/2006 5:19:25 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Flightdeck

Your money first


4 posted on 04/27/2006 5:19:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Flightdeck
"One solution which will never happen: Electromagnetic transportation. Same principle as the high speed trains, but everyone has to go purchase their own little "car". It has no internal combustion engine, just magnets. The individual can retain their own little space and privacy"

Cannons.
I've always been partial to cannons. With the proper planning, they would need to be spaced no less than twenty miles apart.

Smaller, 'feeder cannons' can deal with local 'traffic'.

5 posted on 04/27/2006 5:19:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Publius6961
Cannons.

Sorry, they contribute to global warming/cooling.
The smart money is on slingshots.

6 posted on 04/27/2006 5:24:21 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Publius6961

I prefer transporters and wormholes myself.


7 posted on 04/27/2006 5:24:55 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Flightdeck

Why don't we simply transition right away to the Jetson's car.

Then we don't need highways. After our robotic bed gets us up in the morning moving us on the conveyor belt from the toilet, shower, kitchen and garage it would wisk us off to work with Mr. Spacely.

Problem solved.


8 posted on 04/27/2006 5:24:55 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside (Watcher of the Skies)
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To: Flightdeck
And there are no fatal accidents. Each car follows the grid to its destination all the way from their driveway.

Interesting how two paths can never cross in this scheme.

9 posted on 04/27/2006 5:25:35 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Interesting how two paths can never cross in this scheme."

No..the wouldn't have to. And even if there was a waiting situation it would be a very simple matter.


10 posted on 04/27/2006 5:28:25 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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And even if there was a waiting situation it would be a very simple matter.

Well it's a simple matter now, isn't it?

Somebody's got a stop sign, somebody's got a red light. somebody's got a green light. Pretty darn simple.

Accidents still happen. I don't believe that turning over control of the vehicle to someone else will stop it.

11 posted on 04/27/2006 5:32:41 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Flightdeck

Tell me how much the infrastructure is going to cost us? And how long? Prepping in cities will be a pain, but how about reaching out to Mom and Pop in Podunk Ohio???


12 posted on 04/27/2006 5:33:59 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

"Tell me how much the infrastructure is going to cost us?"

A hell of a lot. That's why I said it wouldn't happen.


13 posted on 04/27/2006 5:35:28 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: Flightdeck

As a driver of a "big rig" I can tell you that it is often difficult to maintain control of the truck on roads which are poorly maintained, and often poorly designed.

Why should we think that "electro-magnetic" roads would be any better?

I think the best solution to our high fatality count and oil use is lower speed limits and alot less horsepower.


14 posted on 04/27/2006 5:36:47 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: Flightdeck
One day, however, somebody who has enough power is going to have a kid get killed minding his own business, and the debate will begin: do we really have to accept 80,000 fatalities per year on our roads??

My suggestion to you: don't drive. Take public transportation.

Eliminating all risk on the highways isn't even on MY list of priorities.

15 posted on 04/27/2006 5:36:54 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Well it's a simple matter now, isn't it?"

Yes, very.

"Somebody's got a stop sign, somebody's got a red light. somebody's got a green light. Pretty darn simple."

Who said anything about stop signs and lights? You're stuck in two dimensions.


16 posted on 04/27/2006 5:37:22 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: gas0linealley

"Why should we think that "electro-magnetic" roads would be any better?"

Because they are tracked.


17 posted on 04/27/2006 5:38:21 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Longhorns+January=Rose Bowl Repeat)
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To: sinkspur; Flightdeck

--ditto--


18 posted on 04/27/2006 5:39:40 AM PDT by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Flightdeck

I personally would like to see a dramatic increase in the welfare program. Then I could collect my checks from the comfort of my own home, never having to venture out on the dangerous roads.


19 posted on 04/27/2006 5:42:32 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Flightdeck

more info on the crash and victims

http://www.taylor.edu/community/news/accident_04-26-06.htm


20 posted on 04/27/2006 5:42:44 AM PDT by dawn53
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