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Privately, Bush Says He Favors Citizenship (for Illegals)
AP ^ | April 26, 2006 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/26/2006 5:20:12 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

President Bush generally favors plans to give millions of illegal immigrants a chance at U.S. citizenship without leaving the country, but does not want to be more publicly supportive because of opposition among conservative House Republicans, according to senators who attended a recent White House meeting.

Several officials familiar with the meeting also said Democrats protested radio commercials that blamed them for Republican-written legislation that passed the House and would make illegal immigrants vulnerable to felony charges.

Bush said he was unfamiliar with the ads, which were financed by the Republican National Committee, according to officials familiar with the discussions.

At another point, Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada and other members of his party pressed the president about their concern that any Senate-passed bill would be made unpalatable in final talks with the House.

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat, said the lawmaker who would lead House negotiators, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, had been "intractable" in negotiations on other high-profile bills in the past. Bush did not directly respond to the remark, officials said.

The Republican and Democratic officials who described the conversation did so Wednesday on condition of anonymity, saying they had not been authorized to disclose details.

Bush convened the session to give momentum to the drive for election-year immigration legislation, a contentious issue that has triggered large street demonstrations and produced divisions in both political parties. Senators of both parties emerged from the session praising the president's involvement and said the timetable was achievable.

"Yes, he thinks people should be given a path to citizenship," said Sen. Mel Martinez., R-Fla., a leading supporter of immigration legislation in the Senate.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; bushhaters; citzenship; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; openborders; sellout
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To: pollyannaish

---Nothing in politics comes down to a single issue. And Foley's dumping most certainly did not.---

The gun control issue though was the deal breaker. Clinton knew it too, and never forgave the NRA.

I'm just saying this border issue is a real hot button. Just look at this thread! We haven't been beating up on one another like this for maybe a couple of weeks. :^)


721 posted on 04/26/2006 11:34:49 PM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
OH I get it. You're a dem. You see we pubbies don't think like that, because we KNOW the clintons kept databases like that already!

Class is now in session. Tommy Thompson wanted to collect private medical information and place in in a national data bank. Tom Ridge pushing for gathering info on private citizens with no record of criminal behavior. BTW did you know that if you get pulled over the cop now knows about that 1980's speeding ticket even if you are 10 states away?

Next is the beloved new Attorney General whom many were begging to be a USSC Justice. This man says all your surfing information belongs to him. That's just off the top of my head. Me a DEM? Look here I didn't like such ideas under Clinton and I don't like them now any better.

722 posted on 04/26/2006 11:37:16 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: onyx
Right now, I am supporting Senator Sessions and remain hopeful that he will hold sway when congress reconvenes.

If Sessions ran for POTUS I would gladly vote for him. I'm not against all GOP just the RINO's. My senator is the pathetic Senate Majority Leader a Hillary Care Shill from a long ways back.

723 posted on 04/26/2006 11:40:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe

I prefer your two TN senators and my two MS senators over my former two CA senators.

Frist and Lott both went weak when elected by their peers to Majority Leader.


724 posted on 04/26/2006 11:42:27 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: onyx
Frist and Lott both went weak when elected by their peers to Majority Leader.

I can say this much. Right now Hillary must be tickled over the Medicare reform. It was taken from her idea called Tenncare her, Al Gore and a DEM governor accomplished. Whayt most persons don't know is Frist despite wide spread corruption and a nearly bankrupt state budget kept going to HCFA for yearly waivers and funding. To be honest about it we have a DEM self proclaimed Liberal governor who is more conservative than him or Alexander. THe GOP will have trouble beating him the next time. After Sundquist-R anyone looks better.

I hope Ed Bryant gets Frist seat. I think he can defeat Harold Ford pretty easy. Fords have been in scandal in this state longer than most people know. It goes back to Ford SR and a bank failure in the early 1980's.

726 posted on 04/26/2006 11:52:03 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: John Jorsett

But some bootlickers will hang on no matter what.


727 posted on 04/26/2006 11:52:56 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Howlin

---If you're going to sit home and not vote, why keep telling us about it?

Do you hope somebody will talk you out of it?---

I'm not sure what I'll do at this point. I have supported Bush up until this point. I did not say I was going to sit home. I said many were likely to, or vote 3rd party. Here in Montana enough people vote 3rd party to give us a Democrat legislature. It is a real problem. We've got Republicans that support Democrats against fellow Republicans as well, but that's another matter.


728 posted on 04/26/2006 11:54:32 PM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

(Privatley, I think Bush has rocks in his head!)


729 posted on 04/26/2006 11:55:06 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: cva66snipe
The Fords are notoriously corrupt and I can't stand that damn arrogant congressman, Harold Ford. It's disgusting and quite frightening to hear his name bandied about as a possible VP nominee.

Frist isn't running for reelection, is that right?

=== I doubt I'll be here to reply to you tonight. It's late and I am tired.
730 posted on 04/26/2006 11:58:06 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: Junior_G
"I get back from the gym and see this wonderful headline. So, how are the anti-borders folks spinning this unsurprising revelation?"

It's a big liberal conspiracy don'tcha know.
731 posted on 04/27/2006 12:01:23 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: onyx
The Fords are notoriously corrupt and I can't stand that damn arrogant congressman, Harold Ford. It's disgusting and quite frightening to hear his name bandied about as a possible VP nominee. Frist isn't running for reelection, is that right?

I remember Ford SR heck I even remember Gore Sr being my senator. Ford JR isn't as arrogant as SR and his dad & uncle likely jump him for being too conservative LOL. No Fords for me.

Frist is not running again.

732 posted on 04/27/2006 12:02:51 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: cva66snipe

Thanks for the information.
I cannot recall Ford Sr.


733 posted on 04/27/2006 12:04:01 AM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: underwiredsupport
Get rid of "scab" illegal laborers,and learn to do without salad!
734 posted on 04/27/2006 12:06:24 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: FreeReign
"Bush didn't call the Minutemen vigilantes."

Please, don't try to rewrite history, it just makes you look dishonest and destroys any faith in the validity of future arguments you may make.
735 posted on 04/27/2006 12:11:03 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: FastCoyote
Sweetums, I read Gibbons, forty five years ago. Believe me, I've forgotten more about the ancient Roman Empire than you know.

There is NO comparison between the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the America of today; NONE, no matter what you believe to be the case.

And your use of the word "gates", is patently ridiculous...which is why I made fun of it and you.

736 posted on 04/27/2006 12:15:59 AM PDT by nopardons
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737 posted on 04/27/2006 12:19:30 AM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: West Coast Conservative

It basically falls on James Sensenbrenner to save our country. May be have the strength to do it.


738 posted on 04/27/2006 1:06:42 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: onyx
Some of us were Goldwater Girls (too young to vote for him). Reportedly, Hillary was one of us back then.

She was back in Park Ridge. Then she met the activist Reverend Don Jones and later Saul Alinsky (Rules for Radicals).......... and now look what we have.

;-)

****

I posted this about Jones long ago.

And by the way, Hillary is the FREAK she is today for a few reasons, but a guy by the name of Rev. Don Jones is one major reason. He was the young "hip" youth minister at her First Methodist Church of Park Ridge (Illinois) who influenced her greatly.

From Gail Sheehy's book Hillary's Choice ---

Another important older man entered Hillary's life that same year (1961), when she was hovering between thirteen and fourteen on the cusp of adolescence. He was a tall, blond, blue-eyed man who wore a crew cut and white bucks and tooled around town in a bright red Impala convertible. He was young and all the girls thought he was good looking. But Don Jones was also a true intellectual- Hillary's type. Twenty-six and fresh from divinity school at Drew University across the Hudson River from New York City, he succeeded three youth ministers who had been safe and traditional. Jones represented a radical change for the sleepy First Methodist Church of Park Ridge.

"New ideas were frowned upon in our community," says Patsy Henderson Bowles. "We hadn't been exposed to diversity. Don wanted us to think about where other people were coming from and to understand their problems."

Jones was the only alternative reality in town. On Sunday evenings in September of 1961, he would offer Hillary's church youth his version of the "University of Life" program. He had been outside the sterile world of suburbia and could offer a window onto the more exotic worlds of abstract art. Beat poetry, existentialism, and the rumblings of radical political thought and counterculture politics that were eventually to explode under the smug slumber of even the good gray burghers of Park Ridge."

If you haven't yet read 'Hillary's Choice', it's very helpful in understanding from where Hillary is coming.

739 posted on 04/27/2006 3:47:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (G.W.: Tony already knows most of you ....................... and he's agreed to take the job anyway.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Well, how about we start with a rational explanation why a policy which penalizes those employers who choose to hire (and apparently in today's world even recruit!) illegal aliens is unworkable? How about a rational explanation as to why 11 million illegals cannot be deport - other than a decree by the Bush crowd to that effect? Why a fence cannot be built? We did find 15 with a lot of zeros dollars to send to Africa for AIDS medication after all.

The unfortunate reality is this: in the marketplace of ideas on this issue, President Bush and those who support him are completely bankrupt. They cannot come out and actually say what they believe: "I want illegals here because they lower wages. I want illegals to be granted amnesty and made American citizens so that they will pay taxes and nobody will be able to deport them." So they engage in name calling and subjective criticism of their opposition with no basis in fact.

When one of them gets called on it, they respond with a pointless post such as the one you've presented here. Have you ever stopped to wonder why there are only six or so of you? Or why it's the same six or so that constantly show up parroting the President's line and trying to appear as if your line of thinking is a viable policy position within conservatism?
740 posted on 04/27/2006 4:01:46 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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