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FAA Prepares for Possible Mass Controller Exodus - GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!
Aero-News.net ^ | april 25, 2006 | Aero-news.net

Posted on 04/26/2006 9:36:22 AM PDT by imd102

NATCA Says Membership May Opt for early retirement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airtraffic; controllers; faa; natca; unions
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These people might as well be on retirement already. The FAA reports that average controller makes $166K/yr while only working 4.5 productive hours a day. Plus they are the biggest abusers of time off and sick pay out of any government union, and that's saying something!!!

Hopefully Congress lets the FAA do it's job and stays out of this mess.

1 posted on 04/26/2006 9:36:23 AM PDT by imd102
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To: imd102

"PATCO 2" ? LOL!


2 posted on 04/26/2006 9:37:23 AM PDT by TommyDale (They would debate ethics in North Carolina, but no one has any.)
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To: imd102

I haven't respected them since the strike in the 1980s.


3 posted on 04/26/2006 9:38:44 AM PDT by John Geyer
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To: imd102

I gotta tell you,I don't want my controller to be working when he's got a head cold.... might be ok for me to work that, day, but for him? Take the day off...

1 simple mistake and folks die....


4 posted on 04/26/2006 9:39:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: imd102

Newt Gringich said 10 years ago the Air Traffic Control System still uses vacuum tubes. Have no reason to believe that changed.


5 posted on 04/26/2006 9:39:31 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: TommyDale

"PATCO 2" ? LOL!
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Yes, I bet Reagan is cheering from the grave. That was the greatest moment in U.S. history when he threw those union extortionists out...I was cheering!!!


6 posted on 04/26/2006 9:42:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: imd102

Ever controlled aircraft?


7 posted on 04/26/2006 9:43:51 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: EagleUSA

That was when I became a great admirer of President Reagan. He wond me over with that single decision.


8 posted on 04/26/2006 9:44:48 AM PDT by TommyDale (They would debate ethics in North Carolina, but no one has any.)
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To: Semper Paratus
the Air Traffic Control System still uses vacuum tubes

So they are more immune to a EMP attack?
Sometimes older isn't worse.

9 posted on 04/26/2006 9:46:23 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: Semper Paratus

Doesn't that make the equipment impervious to electro-magnetic pulses?


10 posted on 04/26/2006 9:47:12 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: HamiltonJay

I am with you here. I have a great respect for controllers.


11 posted on 04/26/2006 9:47:37 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Semper Paratus
Newt Gringich said 10 years ago the Air Traffic Control System still uses vacuum tubes. Have no reason to believe that changed.

A ton of money was spent developing something called the Advanced Automation System. This modernization effort dated back to the 80s (it was modern then). You can't go to any meeting of engineers without running into a number who have worked on some aspect of this system. As far as I know it was never deployed. Perhaps it was renamed or only certain aspects were deployed. Anyone know?

12 posted on 04/26/2006 9:49:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: RexBeach
Doesn't that make the equipment impervious to electro-magnetic pulses?

Maybe, but all the planes electronics would be fried.

13 posted on 04/26/2006 9:49:21 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: TommyDale

I remember when Reagan busted PATCO. They thought America would panic. Boy were they surprised when Americans applauded. Even Uberwuss Phil Donahue noted on his show in the 80s that PATCO was loathed, and that Reagan's move was popular.


14 posted on 04/26/2006 9:50:31 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Semper Paratus; ASA Vet
Newt Gringich said 10 years ago the Air Traffic Control System still uses vacuum tubes. Have no reason to believe that changed.

No.

Modernization

15 posted on 04/26/2006 9:53:08 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: rhombus

See post 15.


16 posted on 04/26/2006 9:53:46 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Semper Paratus
Sep 2004, (I think), Aviation Week reported that Boeing had tested an auto land system on one of their B737s. This was a GPS based system and they even tested in in Brazil to insure that the Sugar Loaf mountain wouldn't block the GPS signals. The result was a touchdown within 1 meter or the runway centerline!

Thee is absolutely no reason that a GPS autopilot couldn't control the WHOLE flight from push back to touchdown and taxi to terminal.

My nephew is working at Atlanic City in a consulting capacity. The FAA is performing an operational test of a GPS based separation system which will allow the 1000 feet of vertical separation to be reduced to 500 feet! This would double the capacity of the highways in the sky.

But really we don't need controllers glued to a Video Screen and telling pilots where to go and how to get there.

Yes, the controllers did a marvelous job on 911 when they cleared the skys of almost 4000 aircraft in under an hour!!! Give'em the tools and many can retire and the few remaining will still get the job done!

17 posted on 04/26/2006 9:54:44 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: DesScorp

My husband was deployed on the USS Constellation when that happened. He and some other air traffic controllers called their detailer and 'volunteered' to go to the land-based airports and help out for a while, but they got turned down 8^)

Hm, wonder what the maximum age will be if they go on a hiring spree again???


18 posted on 04/26/2006 9:54:53 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: imd102
Am I the only one who remembers 1981 and 11000 out of 13000 air traffic controllers fired permanently?

READ ABOUT IT

19 posted on 04/26/2006 9:55:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Young Werther

Some of the newer Navy jets have the capability of being landed on an aircraft carrier by the air traffic controller. My husband was on the Constellation with that system, and they always offered to the pilots on final approach if they wanted to use the system, and were always told, "Hell NO!!" But, here's a true story, he was working final one day and a pilot agreed to let him land the plane remotely, and it worked perfectly. The funny thing was, it was a milestone landing, and when the Captain came down to find out what name to put on the plaque, and the pilot pointed to Mike and say, "Sir, Mike landed the plane". So, my husband's name is the only ATC listed on the plaque full of pilots on the Connie with milestone landings.


20 posted on 04/26/2006 10:00:17 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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