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US lesbian denied fertility treatment sues Catholic docs
Breitbart ^ | April 25, 2006

Posted on 04/26/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by NYer

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More on the "infertile homosexual" story...

81 posted on 04/26/2006 11:01:20 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: rintense
The woman in this story was treated with the expectation that an insemination procedure would occur.

Actually, the woman was told up front that the doctor would not perform the procedure on her. She continued to seek treatment there, but ultimately went to another doctor outside her insurance network for the treatment. Here is another older source that has a little bit more information on the story: Court favors doctors in lesbian's suit

82 posted on 04/26/2006 11:01:27 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: rintense
You've just basically condemned thousands of straight families who conceived children in his manner. Your argument is better based on the homosexual aspect.

No, she said that Catholics consider this to be an artificial means of creating life and thus a devout Catholic doctor would refuse to perform this procedure based on his/her religious beliefs. That is not at all the same as condemning anyone who has used the procedure for conceiving their children. Do you comprehend the difference?

83 posted on 04/26/2006 11:06:02 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: NYer

hmmm, I wonder what the chances are that she specifically went to Catholics so that she can sue them when they say no.

What's next suing a Catholic or even a Protestant doc for not murdering your unborn child?


84 posted on 04/26/2006 11:06:18 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
No problem if they want to have a girlriend join in, either?

It just so happens that I'm running a 'Two For The Price Of One' special the hole month of May!

85 posted on 04/26/2006 11:07:19 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: rintense
So, is a lesbian doctor within her rights to deny a straight couple the same procedure simply because she doesn't agree with their lifestyle choice?

It's an elective procedure. I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Here's one back at you: Do you think that a doctor should be required to perform abortions, including partial birth?

86 posted on 04/26/2006 11:11:57 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: rintense

So, is a lesbian doctor within her rights to deny a straight couple the same procedure simply because she doesn't agree with their lifestyle choice?



Being that the procedure is an elective, HELL YES!


87 posted on 04/26/2006 11:19:16 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: aimhigh

I try to avoid getting too invested in other people's private behavior. That's not to say I don't have some very strong opinions about many things. What someone does in their bedroom is of very little interest to me. I'd just like to see it taken out of the public domain where we are constantly confronted with it. Thanks for your response. :)


88 posted on 04/26/2006 11:30:25 AM PDT by virginiaspook
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To: NYer

Here's the essence of this lawsuit: "Your morals conflict with my deviant desires. I demand that you put your morals aside and affirm my deviant lifestyle. If you don't, we'll force you to comply."


89 posted on 04/26/2006 11:36:22 AM PDT by Antoninus (I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party.)
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To: NYer
"I trusted my doctors and then they humiliated my family and me by refusing to perform the insemination procedure after they'd been treating me and promising it to me for nearly a year," she said.

That statement is a lie. They told her up front that they would not perform an artificial insemination for her.

90 posted on 04/26/2006 11:56:42 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: wequalswinner
Oyster in a slot machine? LOL Where'd you get that?

I owe that one to my father, may he rest in piece. Always good for such a colorful observation.

91 posted on 04/26/2006 12:10:34 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (I miss President Reagan.)
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To: Antoninus
"Your morals conflict with my deviant desires. I demand that you put your morals aside and affirm my deviant lifestyle. If you don't, we'll force you to comply."

Lol ... you're absolutely right.

92 posted on 04/26/2006 12:20:35 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: VRWCmember

Then I too favor the doctor. She was told up front, continued the treatment knowing she would not get what she wanted. The lesbian is in the wrong and it would now seem she may have tried to set up the doctor.


93 posted on 04/26/2006 12:22:39 PM PDT by rintense
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To: VRWCmember
Again, then I side with the doctor.

I still, however, have a problem with the statement that all Catholics are opposed to creating life artificially, yet this doctor is performing procedures, regardless of sexuality, that are contrary to his beliefs.

I know a few Catholics who, by that definition, have unsanctioned children.

94 posted on 04/26/2006 12:25:27 PM PDT by rintense
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To: NYer
Doctors are supposed to treat their patients

Of course they are, since the object of medicine is to restore the proper operation of the body. The body of a non-pregnant lesbian is operating properly.

95 posted on 04/26/2006 12:26:22 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
For one thing, insemination isn't an infertility treatment (if she were infertile, insemination wouldn't do a thing for her)---and for another thing, Catholics aren't "fundamentalist Christians" (which is a category of Protestant belief) --- and for a third thing, faithful practicing Catholic doctors don't do artificial insemination for anybody, period.

Other than that, the article's fine...

LOL! You're destroying my faith in newspapers!

96 posted on 04/26/2006 12:28:32 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: rintense
if she had undergone procedures in the office to help her become fertile, the doctor knew her intent.

Not necessarily. She might have lied her head off from the beginning about what she wanted and the way she wanted it.

Actually, she must have lied. I know several people who have been treated for infertility, and their spouses were deeply involved in the entire process. Since she was not trying to conceive a child sexually with a man, I don't see how she could deflected the necessary questions about the prospective father's health WITHOUT lying. I don't even know how she could know for a fact that she was infertile.

And by the way, there are a lot of things that can be done to increase fertility that do not involve artificial insemination or fetal reduction, so a Catholic doctor could legitimately participate in those whithout being accused of "not practicing what he preaches".

Or maybe he's NOT a good Catholic, but still feels like he has to draw the line somewhere. That's fine with me too. Just because someone has fallen into one or more evils himself doesn't mean he has to participate in even more.

97 posted on 04/26/2006 12:57:09 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: rintense
So, is a lesbian doctor within her rights to deny a straight couple the same procedure simply because she doesn't agree with their lifestyle choice?

Wow. Good question, seriously. To be fair I'd have to say 'yes'.

98 posted on 04/26/2006 1:01:51 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: cowboyway
Do you think that a doctor should be required to perform abortions, including partial birth?

Of course not. They aren't required to now and never have been.

99 posted on 04/26/2006 1:04:13 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: VRWCmember

Oho, and it was a female doctor, too! Funny how I've read about this case several times and never learned THAT fact until today.

Journalists wouldn't stoop so low as to hide the sex of the doctor, just to leave the impression that it was some reactionary unenlightened MAN who was oppressing this poor lesbian, would they?


100 posted on 04/26/2006 1:05:10 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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