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US lesbian denied fertility treatment sues Catholic docs
Breitbart ^ | April 25, 2006

Posted on 04/26/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by NYer

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To: hellinahandcart

Well if she lied, then screw her. No pun intended. LOL.


101 posted on 04/26/2006 1:06:29 PM PDT by rintense
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To: conserv13
They aren't required to now and never have been.

You're wrong. In many places, there are laws that medical students who want to be OB GYNS have to learn abortion techniques. The only way to learn them is to participate in them.

Most of these laws have a conscience clause today, but because the legislation was politically oriented to begin with, they might not tomorrow.

Anyway, the message is clear. People who object to killing babies should not dare to think they deserve to have a career delivering babies.

102 posted on 04/26/2006 1:12:49 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
You're wrong. In many places, there are laws that medical students who want to be OB GYNS have to learn abortion techniques. The only way to learn them is to participate in them.

Of course. If you want to be an OB-GYN you have to, that just makes sense.

103 posted on 04/26/2006 1:16:11 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: conserv13

That makes sense to you?

Obstetrics and gynecology used to be about fixing problems with a women's reproductive system, and bringing healthy babies into the world. Now, people like you think that abortion is what qualifies one to be a good OB GYN.

No one needs to learn abortion techniques in order to be a good doctor. If you force people, they will simply go into another line of medicine, and then eventually there will be a shortage of doctors who deliver babies.


104 posted on 04/26/2006 1:28:09 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: rintense

There are many Catholics who use birth control, have abortions, have artificial insemination performed on them. All of which are considered WRONG per Catholic doctrine. Just because Catholics DO something doesn't mean the church has to accept it and say its ok.


105 posted on 04/26/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I bet they treated her for infertility until the point that she asked for AI. And what is this -- 'my family.' You and your girlfriend are NOT a family, sweets. Evidently doctors don't get freedom of conscience.


106 posted on 04/26/2006 1:35:06 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: hellinahandcart
Now, people like you think that abortion is what qualifies one to be a good OB GYN.

I never said that, but I guess its correct. What if there are complications and the baby is injured or dies in utero, or what if the health of the mother or baby is at risk? It is important that the OBGYN be prepared for these situations, so YES, it is important that they know how to do an abortion.

I am not talking about elective abortions.

107 posted on 04/26/2006 1:37:14 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: cowboyway
It just so happens that I'm running a 'Two For The Price Of One' special the hole month of May!

C'mon, Cowboy. I know you meant "the whole month of May!" Or did you? :)

108 posted on 04/26/2006 1:37:40 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: conserv13
I am not talking about elective abortions.

But the law is. Because the rare situations when an abortion is necessary to save a woman's life may not come up during the student's training, people like NY's Mayor Bloomberg think it's okay to decree that students put in time at abortion clinics, where all the abortions are elective (if they were medically necessary, they'd be happening in the hospital). Apparently it is not enough that they learn D & C or C-sections without taking part in elective abortions "just to learn how" to rip up a fetus really well and really quick.

Abortionists are not really held in high esteem. Even Howard Dean answered "No, I'm a medical doctor" when asked if he had ever performed an abortion when he worked at Planned Parenthood. That's very telling as to the level of medical skill required to perform one, isn't it?

109 posted on 04/26/2006 2:02:20 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: xsmommy

That I know and understand. But the way you made it sound was that even the doctor was violating a belief (creating life artificially) that *ALL* Catholics believe. I highly doubt this doctor follows that same belief if he's a fertility specialist.


110 posted on 04/26/2006 2:03:57 PM PDT by rintense
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To: trubluolyguy

"What's next suing a Catholic or even a Protestant doc for not murdering your unborn child?" Actually already happening.


111 posted on 04/26/2006 2:26:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: rintense

there are tons of "Cafeteria Catholics" who pick and choose what they want to believe from their faith. just because not all Catholics believe it, doesn't mean it is not a valid tenet of faith. Those who don't believe are really better served by choosing a faith that is more in line with their belief system. i would defend anyone who is refusing to perform a procedure based on a principle of religious faith, and as has been pointed out, the slippery slope in the other direction (forcing those with beliefs to compromise them, by force of law) is much more troublesome to me. one can find PLENTY of docs to perform whatever one wants done, no need to force anyone to go against their conscience, to get what one wants.


112 posted on 04/26/2006 3:17:17 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: hellinahandcart
Or maybe he's NOT a good Catholic, but still feels like he has to draw the line somewhere. That's fine with me too. Just because someone has fallen into one or more evils himself doesn't mean he has to participate in even more.

Good answer.

113 posted on 04/26/2006 3:20:10 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the freeper formerly known as dubyaismypresident, Blackwell for governor Ohio '06)
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To: starfish923
"My other guess is that she deliberately set this whole thing up just to bring this case forward to the public and the courts." BINGO! There are hundreds of doctors who would have helped her get pregnant. This woman obviously is spoiling for a public fight.
114 posted on 04/26/2006 4:39:29 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: NeoCaveman

Humble thanks. :D

I've lived long enough to do plenty of wrong myself. That doesn't mean anyone should be able to force me to do do more of it.


115 posted on 04/26/2006 4:44:51 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I've lived long enough to do plenty of wrong myself. That doesn't mean anyone should be able to force me to do do more of it.

I like that. I'm going to use that one sometime in the future.

116 posted on 04/26/2006 4:47:14 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the freeper formerly known as dubyaismypresident, Blackwell for governor Ohio '06)
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To: jaydubya2
What about the civil rights of the Doctors?

They aren't protected as a special class like gays under new "Civl Rights" law signed by our current CA Gubbie.

117 posted on 04/26/2006 4:50:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: xsmommy

A la carte religion... it isn't just for Catholics anymore! I know so many Christians who are the same way.


118 posted on 04/26/2006 7:57:32 PM PDT by rintense
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To: everyone
I haven't read all the replys to this article, so someone else may have already posted this information, but this is old news, folks! This case started in 1999 - just Google the woman's name. Also, I'm pretty sure that David Limbaugh wrote about this case in Persecution. If it is the case I'm thinking about, then the doctor told Ms. Benitez before the course of treatment even began that, while the doctor would administer the drugs/hormones/etc. the implantation procedure would have to be performed by another doctor due to religious conflict.

If anyone else has a copy of Persecution, could they look this up and confirm it? I've lent out my copy.

119 posted on 04/26/2006 8:55:32 PM PDT by Ursine_East_Facing_North
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


120 posted on 04/26/2006 9:30:03 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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