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Bush Takes Immigration Pitch to California
AP ^ | 4/24/6 | Nedra Pickler

Posted on 04/24/2006 5:59:15 AM PDT by Crackingham

As Congress headed back Monday from a two-week recess, President Bush was in the country's most immigrant-rich state to push a stalled bill that would allow more foreigners to work legally in the United States. Lawmakers, with an eye on Election Day in just over six months, remain far apart on whether to crack down on illegal immigrants or embrace them as vital contributors to the U.S. economy.

Bush wants a law that would give temporary guest worker permits to foreigners in low-paying jobs while strengthening border security. He was to push his idea in a speech Monday in Irvine, Calif., a state that has seen massive protests in recent weeks calling for immigrant rights.

Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said Sunday he believes Congress will be able to work out differences and pass a bill. Specter, R-Pa., has pledged to have legislation ready for debate soon after lawmakers return.

Specter said Democrats and Republicans have to agree on a list of amendments to consider. And he acknowledged that even if senators pass a bill with a guest worker program, it will be tough to work that out with House members who passed a much tougher bill that would impose criminal penalties on those who try to sneak into this country and would build up fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border.

"It would be a tough conference, candidly, with the House, but we were able to work through the Patriot Act although there were big disagreements," Specter said on CNN's "Late Edition."

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., intends to seek passage of immigration legislation by Memorial Day by reviving the Senate bill that stalled earlier this month due to internal disputes in both parties as well as political maneuvering.

In a gesture to conservative critics of the measure, Republican leadership aides said last week that Frist also will seek roughly $2 billion in immediate additional spending for border protection.

Some conservatives have said the Senate bill is unacceptable because provisions allowing for eventual citizenship to some of the illegal immigrants already here amount to amnesty.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: MineralMan

GWB does go his own way and ignores the polls and the opinion of those who elected him. That much is indisputable.As to why he does it, he won't say more than the pap he put forth in California.So we are not likely to ever know more.


21 posted on 04/24/2006 6:43:07 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: stopem

Few Freepers will be banned for parting company with Bush because he left us. We are receding into the distance and GWB is not looking back.


22 posted on 04/24/2006 6:47:02 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: luvbach1

"GWB does go his own way and ignores the polls and the opinion of those who elected him. That much is indisputable.As to why he does it, he won't say more than the pap he put forth in California.So we are not likely to ever know more."




I suppose that's true enough. Still, once Bush is out of office, he may choose to write (or have ghost-written) his memoirs. We may find out more then.

Still, even now, President Bush has his supporters on this issue, even here on Free Republic.


23 posted on 04/24/2006 6:47:24 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: DumpsterDiver; All
"President Bush was in the country's most immigrant-rich state..."

In all candor Mr. President, and with all due respect...To push this issue as you are, to call the Minute Men "vigilanties" and demean their efforts...you must be in a male bovine fertilizer rich state of mind.

Your plan, Mr. President, is inexplicable and unacceptable. It is only possibly explanable as vote pandering...But it is political suicide.

24 posted on 04/24/2006 6:50:14 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: MineralMan

Because he's a globalist and that's what globalists think and do. Break down barriers and distinctions between countries. Blur the meaning of what is America and what is means to be an American. It's hard to fight for something that is so fuzzy.


25 posted on 04/24/2006 6:59:30 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: DumpsterDiver

"Immigrant rich"?

No, more like a bunch of ILLEGAL immigrant leeeches on welfare and yet taking all those jobs "Americans won't do" AWAY from Americans and still collecting welfare because welfare subsidizes those LOW wages they love! They know how to play the system.


26 posted on 04/24/2006 7:00:55 AM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: Crackingham
Is Bush trying to commit political suicide?

Has he lost ALL semblance of reality?

Does he READ and WATCH the news?

Has he a clue on what his base is upset over?

I hate to ask this but ... is it his wealth that shields him from reality ?
27 posted on 04/24/2006 7:01:58 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: MonroeDNA

Yeah, precisely what he wants to happen WILL VOTE FOR DEMONCRATS. This is beyond stupid.


28 posted on 04/24/2006 7:03:06 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: varon

"If that is the case, then I wish him Godspeed and the same to Dr. Dean in torpedoing the Democrat Party. The sooner these two organized political crime syndicates are destroyed the sooner we'll be able to return to self governance."

Amen to that!


29 posted on 04/24/2006 7:03:54 AM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: Penny
"Amen! Senor Bushez also said that if people had been "living here and obeying our laws" they could apply as guest workers. My gawd! Doesn't he realize they weren't obeying our laws when they sneaked across the border? "

Yeah sure. By his very definition he DISQUALIFIES them.

They BROKE THE LAW COMING HERE ILLEGALLY!
30 posted on 04/24/2006 7:04:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Crackingham

The President, like his dad's buddy BJ Clinton, seems hung up on accomadating the Mexicans to the detriment of the legal citizens of our country. He is turning the leadership of the country over to Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the phony Irishman John Kerry, Fat teddie kennedy, Hillary, the corrupt labor unions, homos and all of those other losers that make up what is known as "Dimocrats". God help us.


32 posted on 04/24/2006 7:10:53 AM PDT by hgro
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To: Iwo Jima

"Because he's a globalist and that's what globalists think and do. Break down barriers and distinctions between countries. Blur the meaning of what is America and what is means to be an American. It's hard to fight for something that is so fuzzy."




Well, I don't think there's any question that President Bush is a globalist. He made no secret of his support for Latino immigrants in his campaign speeches in 2000. He made no particular distinction between legal and illegal immigrants at that time, but celebrated the influx of Spanish-speakers into the country.

Yet, he got elected twice by the people of the USA. There's a disconnect somewhere, and I'm not exactly sure where it is. His election in 2000 and re-election in 2004 was not with any confusion about his positions.

So, what's the answer, do you think? The next Presidential election appears to be heading the same way, right for the continuation of globalism. How will that be stopped?

McCain? Hillary? I can't really tell the difference between them on those issues. Yet, they are both seeing fairly high polling figures, and, despite the foolishness of relying on polls, the election is nothing more than a national, official poll.

Globalism appears to not be a breaking point for the voters these days. So, what is the solution?


33 posted on 04/24/2006 7:15:25 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: TR7
"WHY IS BUSH DOING THIS? Can someone please answer this?"

To get s glimpse of the picture, read "Compromised, Bush Clinton Cocaine', by Terry K. Reed.

Then ask yourself, "Why would Slickmesiter send in storm troopers to grab a child so he could be sent back to a dictatorship. Then allow photos of that event all over the newspapers?" Think that photo wasn't worth a couple of hundred thousand votes?
34 posted on 04/24/2006 7:28:36 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: MineralMan

"What is the solution?"
Gee, I don't know either but a good start would be to call them what they are: illegal "aliens", rather than perpetuate the semantic mistake of calling them (latino) "immigrants".
The US Code refers to them as "immigrants" only if they are complying with USC Title 8. If they are not, they are foreign nationals, or aliens breaking our laws. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sup_01_8_10_12_20_II_30_II.html
[By the way, all the signs I saw at the protests by illegal aliens said to call them Mexicans, not latinos or chicanos.]


35 posted on 04/24/2006 7:34:03 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice

Or USC Title 8, section 1184: "non-immigrants".


36 posted on 04/24/2006 7:36:58 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: MineralMan
Still, even now, President Bush has his supporters on this issue, even here on Free Republic.

A very small percentage, however. I'd guess maybe 5%? Or less, since it's the same 3 or 4 over and over that blindlessly tout the party line.

Considering we're probably the GOP's base, this doesn't bode well for the future of the party. Unless, of course, they are assuming we and brainless sheeple and won't remember any of this come November.
37 posted on 04/24/2006 7:56:23 AM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: Serenissima Venezia

"A very small percentage, however. I'd guess maybe 5%? Or less, since it's the same 3 or 4 over and over that blindlessly tout the party line.
"

I don't know about that. It seems to me that there is pretty broad-based support for President Bush here on Free Republic.


38 posted on 04/24/2006 8:12:56 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Crackingham
immigrant-rich state

More like a cesspool state. No wonder he is going there, he wants to learn how to turn the rest of America into a whorehouse of illegal immigrants so California won't have all the fun - nine hospitals closed in Southern California added to the 84 over all. Schools a hellhole - teachers are unable to teach this "diverse" bunch of criminals. Apartments bulging with hundreds of thousands of illegals. American citizens paying the bills - while Bush gets the praise from Mexico that finally the borders states will go to their control under his presidency.

Bush has lost his mind.

39 posted on 04/24/2006 8:22:12 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Lou Dobbs and CNN forever!)
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To: TR7

Bush thinks that if he makes all the illegals legal that the problem will go away. Kind of like legalizing rape and then bragging about the reduction in crime.


40 posted on 04/24/2006 8:28:10 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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