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Joe Scarborough : Who cares if GOP loses Congress ?
Jewish World Review ^ | 04/22/2006 | Joe Scarborough

Posted on 04/23/2006 5:59:31 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: DoughtyOne
Then you have the gaul to make reference to adult vs childish perceptions to boot.

You took that completely out of context. I was not suggesting anything other then what GWB has to do as POTUS / CIC is to only look at options that are truly available and implementable to him. I was suggesting nothing about you.

121 posted on 04/23/2006 8:12:42 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix
That just isn't how the world works today. Again, the first thing serious adults have to do...

Perhaps you didn't mean to, but you seemed to imply that anyone disagreeing could not be an adult.

Thanks for the response.

122 posted on 04/23/2006 8:15:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't think we have a chance in hell of keeping tabs on 20,000 individuals.

You'd clearly be surprised -

As I said before our enemies have suffered one strategic defeat after another in the last 4 1/2 years...we have not suffered one. If our enemies could easily hit us here they would have done so -

And I never said more doesn't need to be done. What I've said to you is at this time in our nations history our country can ill afford to have the anti-American ilk of the Democrat party in the majority of any branch of Congress.

Regards,

123 posted on 04/23/2006 8:17:37 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: SirLinksalot

Excellent post.

I fully agree with Joe Scarborough. Moreover, I am glad that he is making this statement. Two observations:

1. I cannot understand the obsession of the Republicans with their own self-destruction. Consider the poll taken on this site. Only 41% of FReepers will vote republican this election cycle. Compare that to, say, the last election for GWB. I bet it was better than 99%. My point is that the republican losses are due to a loss of the base. How difficult is this to understand??? Scarborough is explaining how they are the instruments of their own demise.

2. Sitting out this election or voting for a conservative 3rd party (e.g. the Conservative Party) makes sense. As many have pointed out, it might be a tactical mistake, but I think it is strategically correct. Send the Republicans a message. Maybe after an election cycle we will get better ones that we can vote for.


124 posted on 04/23/2006 8:18:33 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: California Patriot

We are going down the tubes. A USSC justice will not slow that down much, if at all.

For the most part, the only time 'moderate Republicans' will give us conservatives the time of day is when they want our votes.

Unless the pubbies do a 180 on border control, I'm staying home in November.


125 posted on 04/23/2006 8:19:38 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: DoughtyOne
Perhaps you didn't mean to, but you seemed to imply that anyone disagreeing could not be an adult.

Again, nothing was meant by it. It was simply a poor choice of words by me -

I was simply trying to convey the real world constraints that a man in the serious position of GWB (POTUS/CIC) has to deal with (or that all of us in the adult world have to deal with...if we are going to be truly effective). -

126 posted on 04/23/2006 8:28:43 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: safoni

In the meantime, you would let the Rats take over the country. Well, it wouldn't take long for them to destroy it. I hope not too many people share your unserious, childish, egotistical approach to politics.


127 posted on 04/23/2006 8:29:54 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: safoni

Oh, for God's sake, be real.

Yes, Bush made a bad choice in Miers, though I'm not sure she's a RINO. He backed off that choice when conservatives revolted, and he appointed a real conservative. That's not what would happen with a Rat president.

Roberts is proving to be a good conservative. I'm sure Alito will.


128 posted on 04/23/2006 8:31:41 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: SunnyD1182

I may be looking at this wrong but what makes you think the President wouldn't be Impeached and found guilty by the Senate? If the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, the Republicans wouldn't have a chance.

Remember it was the Senate, controlled by Republicans, that didn't find Clinton guilty. There really wasn't a trial as we would know a trial. The Republicans , as usual,, didn't want to make waves. Or sometimes I think those FBI files, that no one looked at that were in the White House, might have had some thing to do with it.


129 posted on 04/23/2006 8:31:56 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: savedbygrace

"I'm staying home in November."

Well, don't complain to me when the Rats are shoving it up yours.


130 posted on 04/23/2006 8:33:55 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: DevSix

I've been on both sides of this issue Dev. I left the R.P. in 2000 because I could see what Bush was going to do on immigration. In 2004, I still voted for him.

In 2003 I voted for Schwarzenegger over the objections of many in my state. I was pelted for years over that choice.

Do I want a person like Kerry or Hillary in there? I most certainly do not.

At this stage in the game, I simply cannot support Republicans. I know that is going to tweak a lot of people, but that is the way it's going to be this year.

If you don't like this, I'd suggest you get on the horn and let the White House know it's headed for a serious train wreck if it doesn't get it's house in order.

If the R.P. grants amnesty to the illegals in our nation, I may NEVER vote R.P. again.

There are more reasons than immigration, but that will do for now.


131 posted on 04/23/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: frannie
The Republicans, even by inciting impeachment hearings against Clinton in 1998, ruined their own reputations simply by going that far. The Democrats would be committing suicide by impeaching Bush, let alone actually finding him guilty.

If they throw Bush out of office, it will be an unprecedented move that will make the Democrats seem even more vengeful and extremist than the Republicans looked in 1998. Moderates and independents will move away from them, and there wouldn't be a chance in hell that a lunatic like Hillary Clinton could win in 2008 then.

The Democrats are stupid, but they aren't THAT stupid. They know full well what the political ramifications of impeachment are, so they're not going to go all the way with it. The GOP Senate knew the same thing back in 1998, which is why they didn't go all the way with it.

Bush is not being impeached. That's a red herring designed by certain people to try to motivate the base, but it's not going to work. Fear mongering the electorate won't get the GOP votes in November- results will. If Bush wants to avoid an impeachment headache, he should tell the GOP Congress to get their asses in gear and do something positive. Trying to scare his base is not going to work.

132 posted on 04/23/2006 8:36:24 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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To: rcrngroup

maybe a Rat House would be a good thing. Two more years of Pubbie spending and inept leadership gets us nothing. And if the Rats win the House all they'll focus on is impeachment for two years.
The Pubs will have a lesson for generations of what happens when they govern the way they have. And the Rats will tie up all resources on impeachment and little else. Those who govern least govern best. [Flame away].


67 posted on 04/23/2006 6:38:09 PM PDT by Swanks


133 posted on 04/23/2006 8:38:13 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SirLinksalot
Joe Scarborough together with Pat Buchanan are the worst conservative commentators in the media, they simply hate President Bush and the Republican Party and all their analysis and predictions were wrong.
134 posted on 04/23/2006 8:40:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Joe Scarborough : Who cares if GOP loses Congress ?

How could we tell the difference?

135 posted on 04/23/2006 8:42:13 PM PDT by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
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To: DevSix
Don't tell me--this is the most important election in 40 years. Yeah, right.
136 posted on 04/23/2006 8:46:54 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: DevSix
The problem of immigration did not begin in the last 5 years - You "sky is falling" types over immigration might be well intended but you are going off the deep end.

I sort of concur with you there. As long as the dolts on the Hill can manage to NOT pass an amnesty bill before the elections, I might could see my way to being a good little bot at the polls.

The longer this thing is debated, the less likely it is that we see them pass an amnesty. IMO.

Bonus points if Chaffee gets dumped in the primary. Somebody needs to be made an example, in order to calibrate the rest of the fainthearted.
137 posted on 04/23/2006 8:48:55 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: safoni

"The GOP Establishment should be taught a lesson "
Jamie Gorelick as a Supreme Court justice is too much a lesson for the country. I guess it's Mr./Ms. Perfect-Conservative or nothing for some. In order to keep the insane left from taking over, I can vote for Mr./Ms. Adequate-Conservative.


138 posted on 04/23/2006 8:49:05 PM PDT by SisBoombah
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To: SirLinksalot

Hey Joe, how's your best friend Gary Condit??


139 posted on 04/23/2006 8:49:19 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: plain talk

I think even the democrats would be hardpressed to grow domestic spending like this republican congress has...

and that is saying something


140 posted on 04/23/2006 8:54:01 PM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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