Posted on 04/23/2006 9:18:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
April 23, 2006 — - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, R-Calif., celebrated Earth Day by issuing a global warming warning, extolling the virtues of fuel-efficient vehicles and blasting "outrageous" oil prices at the pumps in an exclusive interview on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."
"The science is in," the actor-turned-politician claimed. "The facts are there that we have created, man has, a self-inflicted wound that man has created through global warming."
As to the government's role in combating global warming, Schwarzenegger continued, "I think that the federal government is doing things. But I think that they are not aggressive enough. And I think that the whole world is not aggressive enough."
Schwarzenegger encouraged buying fuel-efficient vehicles and pointed to California's policies as an example for the nation, saying, "We want to inspire people that desire cars that are fuel efficient and also drive less, do more carpooling and so on. Because remember, the oil price is all based on supply and demand."
Regarding the issue of rising gas prices at the pump, Schwarzenegger said, "I think that's absolutely outrageous. And believe me, I am all for profit. I love when businesses are booming. But there is a certain point when you have a product that everyone needs and that everyone is relying on because of the situation that you have created. … We've got to protect the people."
Schwarzenegger did not overtly support a windfall profit tax, but did not rule it out entirely, choosing instead to focus first on combating "gouging" at the pumps.
In a wide-ranging interview with ABC News chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, the governor rebuked some of his fellow Republicans for their stance on immigration reform. Schwarzenegger strongly rejected the idea of building a "wall" along 700 miles of the U.S.-Mexican border, an idea advocated by a number of prominent House Republicans.
"I think that it will be ludicrous to limit yourself to just building a wall," he said. "We're going back to the stone ages here. I mean, we are landing men on the moon and in outer space using all these great things. I think that other technology really can secure the borders.
"If I say, 'Yes, let's build the wall,' what would prevent you from building a tunnel?" he added. "How many tunnels have been built in the last ten years? I mean, we've detected tunnels left and right that people can drive trucks through. And they have air conditioning systems in these tunnels and water flowing and fuel supply and everything. I think that it is crazy to think that a wall alone will do it."
Schwarzenegger embraced "earned citizenship", a position espoused by numerous Senate Republicans, and dismissed any suggestion of amnesty. He also pushed back calls for mass deportation.
"How do you do this logistically?" he asked. "How does that work? You send 12 million people back. It would cost $500 billion. Who's going to pay for that? I mean, this is ludicrous to think this way."
On another federal-state issue, Schwarzenegger also had tough words on protecting California's levees in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
"I think the federal government has not learned these lessons," he said. "I think that they have failed terribly with Katrina. And I think there is a great potential there that they make the same mistake with California. I've been asking the federal government. I said, 'Look at the levees. They are soaked right now. They are so vulnerable. The only thing that keeps us from disaster right now are sandbags.' "
Schwarzenegger left no doubt as to whether the government is responsible for protecting the levees and, through them, the people and property in the state he governs.
"I think it is the number one responsibility of government … to protect the people," he said. "We have an earthquake-prone state. We have a state that is prone to all kinds of disasters. We have had the hugest fires, mud slides, rains, earthquakes. We have everything, levee breaks we've had in the past. We've got to protect the people."
But, come November, the people of California may no longer desire Schwarzenegger's protection. As both the governor and President Bush experience personal record lows in their approval ratings, Schwarzenegger told Stephanopoulos that he doubts the president would seek his advice. But the red Governor in a decidedly blue state refused to distance himself from the Republican president.
"He is making decisions based on what he thinks is best for the country," Schwarzenegger said of Bush. "That doesn't mean that it is in sync with my opinion. That doesn't mean it's in sync with your opinion or with someone else's. But I am sure he is doing his best job."
As for his own fate, the first-term governor expressed confidence and rejected the polls.
"You know something?" he said. "I don't really care about that at all. I don't look at it where a president's approval ratings are when I meet with a president and also, you know, when I lead. I mean, the people will judge me in November based on what is my performance, what I have done."
At the moment, a recurring role in Sacramento may be a tough sell even in Schwarzenegger's own home. The governor dismissed the notion that Maria Schriver, his wife and a member of the famed Kennedy political family, would ever run for office and admitted his Democratic partner might not love his current job.
"She grew up in a political family," he said. "I think that she is not as much into this whole thing. She loves serving the people. She loves being first lady. But for her, the most important thing is to raise the children and for us to be together as a family. She doesn't like the job that I have now. She doesn't like the idea that I'm running again. [But] she's supportive."
When asked by Stephanopoulos whether or not Schriver had asked him not to run again in 2006, the former actor cautiously chose his lines.
"I wouldn't say that she said I shouldn't run," Schwarzenegger said. "I think that she maybe is very clear that she would rather have me at home. She didn't say, 'Don't run'. She puts it in a different way. She would just say, 'I need you to be at home. I love you to be at home.'"
But, Schwarzenegger explained, duty calls.
"I told her I cannot walk away from this job," he said, "not because I need the job, but I am a person that likes when I start something, I want to finish it."
There it is. I never once believed that Arnie was a conservative like he claimed. I always just saw him as a typical Hollywood lefty. Add to this that he comes from Austria (in the heart of socialist Europe) and this ridiculousness should come as no surprise.
Honestly, was that really necessary?
I just ate, my eyes are now bleeding, and I just know that I'm going to have some major nightmares tonight.
And this guy is better than Angelides how exactly?
"You send 12 million people back. It would cost $500 billion."
FIVE HUNDRED BILLION?
that's forty-one grand a head!
what the hell is this clown smoking???
we could give each one of 'em a grand at the border and they'd go home on their own and it would be cheaper than it costs CA to allow them to stay here for a friggin' year!
of course we'd have to secure the borders first!!!
These two figures show former temperatures with major periods of glaciation labeled. The dashed lines are the present global average temperature of about 15° C (59° F). Thus the solid curves show small changes from this average; note that the temperature drops only about 5° C during a glaciation. This has occurred about every 100,000 years, with smaller wiggles in between. That is, there has been a 100,000 year glaciation cycle for the past million years or so, and there may be shorter cycles as well.
The most recent glaciation, 20,000 years ago, is called the Laurentide, and Earth is still recovering from it. This map from the The Illinois State Museum exhibit on ice ages shows the extent of that ice.
The most recent small drop in average temperature caused the Little Ice Age of 1500-1700 AD, which history describes. Mountain glaciers advanced in Europe and rivers like the Thames in England froze solid, which doesn't happen now.
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The growth of the ice sheets began about 120,000 years ago as ice built up on the continents in the Northern Hemisphere, especially in Canada and Europe. The largest extent of these ice sheets occurred 18,000 years ago. At that time the largest ice sheets were between 3.5 and 4 km thick. In North America the largest ice sheet was the Laurentide Ice Sheet centered on Hudson Bay with other sheets centered on Greenland and in the Canadian Rocky Mountains. As these ice sheets expanded they grew together, covering Baffin Bay and eventually the Great Lakes and New England. In northwestern Europe the Fennoscandian Ice Sheet began to grow and expand south to cover what is now Norway and Sweden and north to cover the exposed continental shelf. Over time the ice sheet grew to cover Finland and the United Kingdom. This ice sheet extended east to the Ural Mountains where it met the Siberian Ice Sheet. Before the last ice age ice sheets already existed on Antarctica and on Greenland.
also, FYI to gore
NYC and Boston was under a glacial ice sheet 300 feet thick 50,000 years ago.
http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php?id=12325
GLACIERS IN NEW YORK CITY - INWOOD HILL PARK
Inwood Hill Park
Inwood Hill Park now contains the last natural forest and salt marsh in Manhattan, but the land once lay beneath a huge sheet of moving ice. The most recent ice age began about 1.5 million years ago, at the advent of the Pleistocene Era, and lasted until around 10,000 years ago. At the beginning of the Pleistocene, global temperatures dropped dramatically. Huge masses of snow and ice formed in the Arctic, sometimes as thick as two miles. The tremendous weight and pressure of the ice sheet caused the snow underneath to solidify, providing a surface on which glaciers could travel. During the Pleistocene Epoch, there were four glacial advances - the most recent being the Wisconsin ice sheet, which had the greatest impact on the land beneath New York City.
The Wisconsin ice sheet began its southward journey from the Arctic around 100,000 years ago, reaching what is now New York roughly 50,000 years later. By this time, it had lost some of its bulk, although it was still 300 feet thick and stretched from Massachusetts to Montana. As the glacier moved through this region, it deepened the bed of the Hudson River, carved out such geologic features as the Great Lakes and the Finger Lakes basins, and left its mark on the Adirondack mountains. The glacier also deposited tons of gravel and pebbles, moving boulders from the Palisades to Central Park, plowing up topsoil, leveling the earth, and filling in depressed areas with glacial till. This glacial activity sculpted the characteristic terrain of Inwood Hill Park, with its dramatic caves, valleys, and ridges.
http://www.geotimes.org/feb06/Travels0206.html
What the exhibits won't tell you is that the Puritans settled at the base of Beacon Hill because it is made of stratified sand from a glacial outwash channel. The layered deposits allow groundwater to flow and pool at the base, where the settlers could collect it for drinking water. King's Chapel is built of 450-million-year-old Quincy Granite, which formed when an island the size of Japan collided with the island that carried Boston-to-be, long before it was part of North America. Bunker Hill is a drumlin: a streamlined hill of compacted glacial debris, shaped by a retreating glacier.
From the Prudential Building, most of what you see below you is glacial debris. The Wisconsin Ice Sheet, the last glacier to blanket New England, retreated about 16,000 years ago, leaving in its wake boulders and gravel it had carried down from the North, and forming Cape Cod and the islands of Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket. Around Boston, the glacier left dozens of drumlins and "kettles" (bowl-shaped hollows created when glaciers melt), which form most of the ponds of the city's "Emerald Necklace," one of the oldest series of parks and parkways in the United States that are worth a visit unto themselves
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Despite a lot of science and even more debate, scientists don't have a clear idea about whether the ice in Antarctica as a whole is growing or shrinking. They do worry, however, that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet might shrink enough to raise global sea levels appreciably in the coming centuries. The worst-case scenario is a complete collapse of the sheet, which would jack sea levels up by as much as 20 feet. Below, see what would happen to selected coastlines around the world if such a disintegration occurred. See also how these coasts looked 20,000 years ago at the height of the Ice Age, when seas were 400 feet lower than today, as well as how they would appear if the much larger East Antarctic Ice Sheet were to disintegrate. No one believes this tremendous dome will disintegrate anytime soon. But if it did, it would raise seas around the world by as much as 200 feet. (To play it safe, these images depict a conservative rise of 17 feet if the West sheet collapsed and 170 feet if the East sheet did. Note that black lines represent current coastlines).—Peter Tyson Click on the images below to see larger versions.
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It could have been a Helen Thomas photo. But in respect for Sunday, I went "easy".
Ah, much better.
And as the glaciers covered what used to be Kaleefornia, the last liberal standing could be heard gasping: "It's global warming!"
I never heard him claim to be a conservative. He used his "what is Nixon... then I'm a Republican..." during his Gov. run, but he didn't say conservative.
I always took Arnold for a Republican who was socially liberal just like Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snow etc.
Maybe Arnold did claim conservatism, but I never heard it.
California more than ever needs a strong conservative Republican who can fight the insurgency that invaded that state.
Cheer up, Arnold doesn't look anything like the way he is depicted in the pix on the right -- that's a cartoonists photoshop exercise. Arnold is still in very good shape, he exercises regularly. I haven't seen any recent pictures of him in a bathing suit, but that is not the point anyway.
The point is that he is taking CA in the right direction, while Angelides or Westly would destroy it.
I don't agree with some of Arnold's rhetoric about global warming, and so on, but remember, first he has to get reelected, and 66% of CA-s are NOT Republicans and buy into this stuff.
And if you don't like Arnold's environmental policies, just read those of Angelides and Westly and you'll be running, not walking to reelect Arnold, so those REAL wackos don't get in.
President Bush shakes hands with with California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger after participating in a panel discussion on the American Competitiveness Initiative at Cisco Systems, Inc in San Jose, Calif. Friday, April 21, 2006. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
Ahnuld did claim to be a "fiscal conservative" repeatedly. He's certainly not. He's a borrow-and-spend fiscal liberal.
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Hard to tell from some of the prattle you put forth here at FR, a conservative forum.. but not surprising for someone who loves Kool-aid... becuz it starts with a K, just like Kennedy.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...
The question now stares us in the face. Can any self respecting individual participate, in any fashion, in the political process?
Why must you even deceive yourself over his appearance?
This is my favorite satire of Arnold and his groupies, but now I'm beginning to wonder if maybe you actually wrote it and meant it.
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