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Protesters say it's not U.S.'s job to provide for illegal immigrants
Houston Chronicle ^ | 4/23/6 | Todd Ackerman

Posted on 04/23/2006 5:58:39 AM PDT by Crackingham

About 100 people rallied against illegal immigration Saturday, waving U.S. flags and holding signs such as "Remember the Alamo" and "Texas Isn't A Mexican Colony." The protest outside the Mexican Consulate south of downtown came in response to massive demonstrations in Houston and nationally earlier this month in support of amnesty for illegal immigrants.

"It is a sad day in this nation when people here illegally can storm the streets of our cities and demand U.S. taxpayers continue to provide them welfare, social service programs, free health care and the education of their children," proclaimed Curtis Collier, president of U.S. Border Watch. "If elected officials cannot fulfill their oath of office to defend this country and the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic, I demand they resign."

The rally, staged to fall between San Jacinto Day Friday and the U.S. Senate's expected resumption on Monday of deliberations on immigration reform, brought no counter-protest. Some passing motorists honked their horns in seeming approval.

Immigration legislation in the Senate and the House of Representative has inflamed passions around the nation. The House bill calls for a crackdown on illegal immigration that focuses on tightening border security, while the current proposal in the Senate combines more enforcement with temporary worker visas and an "earned" path to legalization for illegal immigrants.

With Toby Keith and George Strait blaring from the sound system, speakers at the rally blamed Mexico for fueling the illegal immigration. One speaker referred to its "industry aiding people across our border."

"You know you have a problem when white-haired women show up for rallies," said Louise Whiteford, eliciting cheers and laughter. "We need to boycott the businesses that support illegal immigration."

The speakers called for Bush to issue an executive order to close the Texas-Mexico border and complained that more than 50 percent of U.S. immigrants are from Mexico, even though it is not as poor as many other underdeveloped countries and represents only 7 percent of the world's population.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; openborders
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To: marajade
I worked for social services in CA. I know what benefits illegals get: nothing.

First it's CA. Then you said AZ. Now you want to know what my "inside knowledge" is. Well, how about site supervisor for the largest health clinic in Harris County (of which Houston (you know that iddy-biddy city) is a part.)

61 posted on 04/23/2006 7:58:13 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

"And that makes it above the law?"

What law? I don't see it being overturned by the Feds?






62 posted on 04/23/2006 7:58:54 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: exhaustedmomma

"Well, how about site supervisor for the largest health clinic in Harris County...."

Do you administer the program or just see it?


63 posted on 04/23/2006 8:00:06 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: exhaustedmomma

"First it's CA. Then you said AZ."

That's correct.


64 posted on 04/23/2006 8:00:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
If you can't ask if anyone is "illegal" then how do you know they are?

I can ask for their green card for ID. But, being it's all about "generating money & numbers"... state doesn't care if the green card is expired.

65 posted on 04/23/2006 8:08:34 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Do you administer the program? Meaning WIC, TANF, food stamps, etc?

If so, you would know you have to provide proof of citizenship.


66 posted on 04/23/2006 8:10:42 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
you have to provide proof of citizenship.

Not in WIC. WIC is very different from Food Stamps and TANF. Just a handwritten letter from somebody saying you live with them will do the job. And yes, I was administering the program. I no longer work for WIC. However, I was one of 4 site supervisors. My job entailed implementing the program & qualifying or disqualifying applicants.

67 posted on 04/23/2006 8:16:04 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

"Not in WIC."

Legal status then. We're going round and round. Like I stated up further in the thread... illegals do not get any free bennies from the gov't.


68 posted on 04/23/2006 8:20:43 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

And I am telling you they do. I was there, I saw it. Free bennies... let's forget the social services... like WIC. (Which, I am telling you I have first hand knowledge that they get. And I have friends, family and colleagues in several states in professional fields verifying the same thing.) What do you call public education? Not a free bennie? How about our medical field? No free bennies?


69 posted on 04/23/2006 8:25:05 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

"How about our medical field?"

That's completely different.


70 posted on 04/23/2006 8:26:29 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Okay. I think it's being raped and abused too, but forget the medical field. How about education? How about our laws... if their illegal status not being dealt with isn't a free bennie from the government, what is?


71 posted on 04/23/2006 8:34:45 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

I don't seem to recall that education is by law defined as an eligibility program.

Actually, in most jurisdictions the education law is that children have to attend school.


72 posted on 04/23/2006 8:38:13 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
I don't seem to recall that education is by law defined as an eligibility program.

State college is.

73 posted on 04/23/2006 9:05:56 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: marajade

"Let's just say you have an incorrect understanding of how things work."

In California that's exactly how "things work".

Under 2 laws that Davis signed illegals get free food stamps and welfare automaticly. Citizens have a harder time.


74 posted on 04/24/2006 6:45:13 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: exhaustedmomma

"State college is."

So what's your point? What do you want?


75 posted on 04/24/2006 5:36:57 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: dalereed

"Under 2 laws that Davis signed illegals get free food stamps and welfare automaticly. Citizens have a harder time."

Then the State has to pay for it. Because the Feds don't allow to waive that kinda of stuff.



76 posted on 04/24/2006 5:37:54 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Chgogal

Good point...if the federal government can't deport 12 million illegals, then they certainly couldn't arrest 50 million taxpayers who refuse to send in their forms.


77 posted on 04/24/2006 5:41:22 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: exhaustedmomma

Went to do my shopping at the local Stater Bros. market a while back and happened upon the following:
Young hispanic girl approx. 15 or 16, about 6 to 7 mos. pregnant. She was accompanied by 4 men. Two were in their 40's or 50's, one looked to be about 25 and the other about 18. The store manager was called because they were there to get all of her WIC foods and the checker helping her was trying to explain there was no need to take her whole monthly allotment at one time, but she could come back weekly and get fresh milk, eggs, cheese etc...
The men were upset and wanted it all and NOW! The store manager smoothed it over by giving them everything they wanted.
Now tell me, who do you think was eating all of this food, the fifteen year old Mamma or the strapping healthy men?
These are the people our President feels we should give a guest worker program to.


78 posted on 04/24/2006 5:48:51 PM PDT by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: antceecee

The girl was eligible was she not?


79 posted on 04/24/2006 6:42:13 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: antceecee

Too, if you suspected fraud did you report it?


80 posted on 04/24/2006 6:43:19 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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