[Calpernia]

We are still there. By the time the threat is removed, then we will be gone.

[kcar]

Okay I assume you believe that our objectives are that pragmatic and not overwieldingly optimistic, as was the fear I expressed via the Katrina analogy. I am not so sure.

However, my original point was that Bush's Religion-of-Peace judgment was a piece of BS. If you're contention was that yes it was, but it was a necessary PR to let the job done and secure the threats, we're on the same page. But nothing in that stops us, the American people, from saying, "Yeah, right" re: this religion of peace tripe. No I really wouldn't want to see him impeached for that - that was inflamed talk (brought about by flag-stamping mushroom-cloud loving schmucks).