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To: js1138
Neither you nor any of the other evolution critics have presented an alternative to debate.

Keep in mind the greatest critics of evolution should be evolutionists themselves, if it is a real science.

As far as being a critic of it, I don;t think that's what you mean and in terms of what you mean I am in no way a critic.

As far as alternatives to evolution, why do you think someone should present an alternative?

Thanks for the honest upfront answer on your scientific background.

Why do you believe so strongly in evolution if you are scientifically unlearned, as you have honestly and graciously admitted?

55 posted on 04/22/2006 5:19:44 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Give me some evidence from my years of posting that I am scientifically illiterate.


56 posted on 04/22/2006 5:55:25 PM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was that happened wasn't evolution)
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To: tallhappy; js1138
Neither you nor any of the other evolution critics have presented an alternative to debate.

Keep in mind the greatest critics of evolution should be evolutionists themselves, if it is a real science.

As far as being a critic of it, I don;t think that's what you mean and in terms of what you mean I am in no way a critic.

As far as alternatives to evolution, why do you think someone should present an alternative?

Thanks for the honest upfront answer on your scientific background.

Why do you believe so strongly in evolution if you are scientifically unlearned, as you have honestly and graciously admitted?

If I may offer a few comments.

tallhappy writes: "the greatest critics of evolution should be evolutionists themselves, if it is a real science".

They are. In grad school I had 2 or 3 semesters (been a while) in a seminar titled "Problems in Evolution." The professor and students all battled every point imaginable, from paleontology to genetics and back--but not religious belief. You are dissing evolutionary scientists as "not real scientists" because they do not include your particular religious belief in their work. Not a very valid argument.

You also note: "why do you think someone should present an alternative?" Are you going to overturn a scientific theory for no reason? Theories change when better alternatives come along. If you have one, present it. But you don't. What you have is a religious belief, not a scientific alternative to the theory of evolution.

You attack js1138 thusly: "Why do you believe so strongly in evolution if you are scientifically unlearned, as you have honestly and graciously admitted?"

Not a very nice comment. Try me instead, if you find js1138 so "unlearned" (which is incorrect). I did half my Ph.D. work in human osteology, human races, and fossil man (read evolution). I have kept up a bit since then. Don't know the new genetics stuff (which by itself is evidence enough to "prove" the theory), but I know my way around a bone on a good day.

62 posted on 04/22/2006 8:51:36 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: tallhappy; js1138

You ask js1138, "Why do you believe so strongly in evolution if you are scientifically unlearned, as you have honestly and graciously admitted?"

I'm curious, do you believe that if someone doesn't have a degree in Biology, or a related degree, then they shouldn't believe evolution is true? Or perhaps, the only way to believe evolution is true is to have a degree in Biology?


172 posted on 04/24/2006 8:03:57 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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