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To: HungarianGypsy
At my most cynical, I blame the feminist movement for doing terrible things to a couple generations of American women. In short, the feminists made it seem to be a bad thing to be a woman

My whole college years (70's) generation of women were terribly confused... they didn't want to be feminine, because that was bad, but they didn't know how to act like men either. They were confused and unhappy and finally impossible.

The most telling moment for me was when I (out of habit and training) opened a restaurant door for my date who suddenly said, "Don't you think I'm smart enough to open a door for myself?"....wow.

This younger generation of women are more balanced (IMHO) but few are feminine... they all want to run around in baggy sweatshirts and drink your beer.

That classic female trait of only having sex in return for loyalty seems gone... a bad trait for anyone who can end up pregnant. Now the standard disclaimer - these are only my opinions, and I've been married to the same woman for 25 years....but then, again, she's not an American.

49 posted on 04/21/2006 3:50:37 PM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass)
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To: lOKKI
Re: opening doors. I never get upset when a guy opens my door. But, a few funny stories about it. Is it gentlemanly when a teenage boy practically shoves his date out of the way just so he can say, "I'm being a gentleman. Let me open the door." LOL!

Actually, eleven years ago I was at a casino with my husband, father-in-law, and my husband's then-stepmom. Without thinking, I reached out to open the door for everyone. Suddenly a large pain went through my other arm. My husband's stepmom had whapped me on the arm. "Don't open your own door!" Since then I have not been allowed to. Of course, I once went to pick up a pizza with a couple of friends and was almost left in the car, because the guys didn't know to open a door.

Now my husband and my six year old son practically race each other to open my car door. My oldest son has held doors open for people so often, he often looks like a door man. I never thought about it, but they were never taught as in, "This is the way you do it." They just observed and started doing it.

Maybe older women need to start smacking the younger women on the arm when they don't let a gentleman open their door.

60 posted on 04/21/2006 5:24:33 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: lOKKI
" The most telling moment for me was when I (out of habit and training) opened a restaurant door for my date who suddenly said, "Don't you think I'm smart enough to open a door for myself?"....wow."

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One question-----was this particular person "smart enough" to help pick up the tab?

68 posted on 04/22/2006 7:18:32 AM PDT by Rockpile
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