THE MINUTEMEN WANT A FENCE

Neal Nuze ^ | 4/21/06 | Neal Boortz

[brownsfan]

"And anyway wouldn't it be intellectually honest for Mr. Simcox to live up to his own rhetoric and pay Americans an American wage to build the fence."

Your extension of the arguement... even once you are shown the error in your ways reveals you are adhering to rhetoric beyond reason.

Once again... volunteer patriotic chore. Not a profit making venture. What part of that is too difficult for your childish world view to grasp?

[savedbygrace]

I considered that aspect, but I still think they'll file suit.

[rattrap]

You're talking about leftist politicians and the moveon.org left who are disconnected from most Americans (as are many politicans on the right on this issue). You think the average Democrat voter listens to Air America? That wouldn't explain it's ratings problems.

[Dane]

Your extension of the arguement... even once you are shown the error in your ways reveals you are adhering to rhetoric beyond reason.

Once again... volunteer patriotic chore. Not a profit making venture. What part of that is too difficult for your childish world view to grasp?

Got it, building a fence with unpaid but willing labor good, a farmer who grows food and pays willing workers a market wage to pick food, bad.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

"...and provide "living wages" for Americans... "

This statement has a definite liberal ring to it.

[Cindy_Cin]

I read that donations to the MinuteMen have gone up since the protest. I know I sent them $100 and a prayer!

[DumpsterDiver]

ping

[Dane]

This statement has a definite liberal ring to it

Uh I ain't the one who uses rhetoric such as farmers and contractors pay "slave" wages. That's the minutemen rhetoric.

[brownsfan]

"You think the average Democrat voter listens to Air America? That wouldn't explain it's ratings problems."

My brother is a blue collar old style dem who stuck with the party. He listens. Calls it "progressive radio". Thinks Bill Press is a genius.
So, I go with what I see. I think that many on the left are touchy feely about this. Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses. They're signed up for that.
I could be wrong on this. But my small sample indicates that the left is ok with being soft on border control.

[spectre]

Most definitely. And after the Illegals get their citizenship, boycotts for "living wages" are sure to follow.

[Liz]

Demonstrates the mindset of invasion rather than immigration. The Plan is for these illegal invaders to overthrow the US government, annex the southern borders, conspire with foreign governement(s) to wage war against the US, and to allow foreign government(s) to occupy the lower states. Here's what we have to look forward to:

Reconquista Armando Navarro 'Ethnic Studies' Professor at the University of California, Riverside Anti-American, Fifth-Column Menace. "Ladies and Gentlemen, what this means (the immigration bill) is a transfer of power, it means control, and it is the young people, the people who are now moving to develop an agenda for the twenty first century they are going to be in a position to really make the promise of what the Chicano movement was all about in terms of self-determination, in terms of empowerment, even in the terms of an Aztlan...."

[brownsfan]

"Got it, building a fence with unpaid but willing labor good, a farmer who grows food and pays willing workers a market wage to pick food, bad."

I pray to the Lord Almighty that our leaders get this problem under control. And when they finally grow a spine and cut off your access to cheap labor, come tell us how legitimate businesses are kicking your heiney would you please?

[Dane]

I pray to the Lord Almighty that our leaders get this problem under control. And when they finally grow a spine and cut off your access to cheap labor, come tell us how legitimate businesses are kicking your heiney would you please

Oh I see it is alright for chris simcox to use cheap labor to build a fence, but when a farmer pays market wages, damn him to hell.

[TheDon]

So now they've issued an ultimatum to President Bush. Build a fence or we'll do it for you.

It's gotta be embarrassing to the PTB for the People to do the job they should be doing. First, Gilchrist patrolling the border, now the Minutemen will build a much needed 2,000 mile long wall. You gotta love the People of the US.

[zook]

"Oh I see it is alright for chris simcox to use cheap labor to build a fence, but when a farmer pays market wages, damn him to hell."

LOL! Yep! Them fence builders damn well better use union labor!

[MattinNJ]

Thanks for the link. I donated.

[brownsfan]

"...but when a farmer pays market wages, damn him to hell."

If your competition can survive, then you're doing something wrong. Adam Smith says in that scenario, you deserve to go out of business. Care to tell me how wrong Mr. Smith is on this issue?

[tgslTakoma]

I take it you're unfamiliar with the "American" concept of "volunteer community service"? :)

A Habitat for American Humanity project...

I wonder if the Montgomery County, MD high schools would give community service hours credit to any MoCo high school kids who worked on this project - as they did for any kids who participated in the illegal alien rallies.

[Fishrrman]

Dane wrote:
I do presume the minutmen will be using American union labor and rules and following all regulations(OSHA etc.etc).

And hueto replied:
Not sure what you're driving at here Dane

I'll explain.

Dane is mocking the construction of a border security wall because he knows that - as a "barrier device" - it will work, and work well.

And therein lies the problem.

All those who denigrate a Southern Security Barrier - either as a concept, or in the actual construction of such - do so because they are afraid that the barrier will perform EXACTLY as intended.

Of course they will _first_ try to tell you that "walls don't work". The idea is to discourage any attempt to construct one.

OK, fine. So if it doesn't work, let us build one anyway, and only make fools of ourselves.

In that case, they'll go ballistic and try anything - from legal and environmental challenges to physical protest - to block the construction.

Why bother to do that if a wall "won't work"? Well, SURPRISE! They were lying all the time. Walls DO work.

Why the heck do they have a security fence around the White House? It still doesn't stop the occassional "fence jumper", right? (sarcasm off)

I predict that, if a true security barrier begins to take shape along our Southern Front, that we will see not only the lefties lining up to try to block it, but the Republican/country club open borders lobby, as well. An uneasy alliance, but it will be an alliance nonetheless.

- John

[tgslTakoma]

Got it, building a fence with unpaid but willing labor good, a farmer who grows food and pays willing workers a market wage to pick food, bad.

Building a fence with unpaid but willing American citizen labor good, a farmer who grows food and pays willing workers who broke American laws to get to America, meaning that they are here illegally a market wage to pick food, bad.

Yes.