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To: Izzy Dunne

In general, I trust the Russians.

But the proof exists. It exists in the announcements that we hear daily.

Rafsanjani is a blowhard troublemaker who shouldn't be trusted as far as we could throw him.

And the current Ayatollah is just as loonytunes.


5 posted on 04/21/2006 3:02:50 AM PDT by djf (Bedtime story: Once upon a time, they snuck on the boat and threw the tea over. In a land far away..)
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To: djf

I disagree 1000%. I do not trust the Russians leadership at all. All countries have their own interests but Putin has done everything, along with the Chinese to undermine the US. Look at the UN resolutions before the US went after Iraq. They are not our friend !


25 posted on 04/21/2006 4:36:06 AM PDT by Pedrobud (Wake up you liberal morons. Bush is not the enemy !!)
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To: djf
Why would you trust the Russians?! They are responsible for most of this. They along with China and North Korea, sold Iran the technology to make nukes. Russia is an anti-American dictatorship.
29 posted on 04/21/2006 4:59:36 AM PDT by gafusa
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To: djf
In general, I trust the Russians.

Then you are part of an ever shrinking minority.

The cold war is re-emerging against a Russian/Chinese axis.

This is not good for global trade.


BUMP

31 posted on 04/21/2006 5:14:42 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Keep Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: djf
I don't trust the Russians or the Chinese and here is why (from my files):

April 30, 2001 - Russian military forces intervened in a mock nuclear conflict between China and the United States over Taiwan during strategic exercises that included Russian preparations to use nuclear weapons on U.S. forces in Asia, The Washington Times has learned.

Russian forces help China in mock conflict

Feb 2002 - China's military is covertly buying U.S. commercial satellite photographs of Taiwan that U.S. intelligence officials say will be used to target the island with the mainland's growing arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles. Satellite photographs of most of the island are being purchased by China through a South Korean company, U.S. intelligence officials say.

Global Security

Nov 2003 - In a tough statement, the Vice-Minister at Beijing's Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi said Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian's recent pro-separatist activities had crossed Beijing's "red line" and that they "run the risk of triggering a war" with the mainland. "War will break out if the island declares formal independence," state media on Wednesday quoted Wang as saying.

CNN

July 26, 2004 - About 18,000 Chinese troops using their country's most advanced weapons systems last week rehearsed coordinated air, sea and ground attacks on Dongshan, an island in the South China Sea that resembles Taiwan in terrain and weather.

Washington Post

Feb 7, 2005 - Quietly, with almost no notice taken in the U.S. media, Russia and China have just stepped up their military cooperation to a level not seen in half a century since the end of the Korean War.

Washington Times

Mar 8, 2005 — China unveiled a law Tuesday authorizing an attack if Taiwan moves toward formal independence, increasing pressure on the self-ruled island while warning other countries not to interfere.

ABC News

June 26, 2005 - China is building its military forces faster than U.S. intelligence and military analysts expected, prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan in the next two years, according to Pentagon officials. U.S. defense and intelligence officials say all the signs point in one troubling direction: Beijing then will be forced to go to war with the United States, which has vowed to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack.

Chinese Dragon Awakens

June 28, 2005 - China's decision to open up massive bomb shelters to the public, ostensibly to provide a respite from summer heat, has U.S. intelligence analysts concerned about a possible strategic deception by Beijing, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. The Chinese specialist agreed with others knowledgeable about nuclear arms that such a maneuver – opening up large fallout shelters to the public on a regular basis would serve two strategic purposes for Beijing: It would familiarize the Chinese people to the shelters, making it easier to evacuate the public in times of potential nuclear attack; It would confuse Western intelligence analysts who monitor movements of the Chinese public by satellite as evidence of the government's intentions; In addition to monitoring missile launches, U.S. national security officials keep an eye on large-scale public movements in countries like China. If, for instance, city residents were seen moving in large numbers into fallout shelters, it would be a sign the government might be preparing for an attack of some kind.

But if such massive movements became routine – because shelters are opened up in the heat of summer and in the cold of winter to provide shelters from the elements – then such movements would more likely be disregarded as militarily insignificant in the West.

"Think about it," said one U.S. intelligence source. "If you were planning, at some point in the future, to launch a pre-emptive first strike on some enemy, wouldn't it make sense to do what the Chinese are doing?"

China activates bomb shelters

Anyone else hear a drum beat?

My thoughts:

Iran and China have signed a 100 billion dollar oil deal and Russia is supplying nuclear assistance to Iran, so they have a vested interest in protecting Iran. I am by no means a financial expert, but according to reports I have read, Russia is attacking the Petro-Dollar system directly, Iran has switched to Euros already and it looks like China is going to follow suit. China, India, Indonesia, South Korea all announced "diversification" away from the US dollar in the past few years, but I think they are just biding their time. Removal of the Petro-Dollar system would have an adverse effect on crude oil prices and could trigger a world bank crisis and possible collapse of the US economy.

So the possible scenario is...Israel attacks Iran and China and Russia retaliate and drop the US dollar into the tank in retribution for our support to Israel. Then it's all out war and there will be no reason for China not to attack Taiwan as well.

Remember the end time predictions:

Russia will march against Israel in fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39 while China will march against Israel at the very end of the Tribulation Period in fulfillment of Revelation 16:12.

This is definitely a time to stay locked, stocked and loaded.

45 posted on 04/21/2006 8:27:48 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: djf

I have never trusted the Russians, They will always be oposed to us. Many still blame us for the bad times they've gone through.

As I always say, allies are very temporary. Only when their national interests are the same as ours...and vice versa.


51 posted on 04/21/2006 2:59:38 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (C-17, anywhere, anything, anytime.)
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