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Rally Planned Against Raids Of Illegal Immigrants
CBS affiliate, Chicago ^ | Apr 20 2006 | Sylvia Gomez

Posted on 04/20/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by george wythe

Protesters are gathering to rally against a new round of raids on undocumented immigrants.

Numerous raids have left Chicago families without their loved ones, and this morning the government is talking about its new policy.

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But illegal immigrant advocates are calling this action and crackdown immoral and they are outraged. They are planning a protest outside the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) headquarters and another protest is planned this afternoon.

They are asking immigration officials to halt action until Congress comes up with its new laws because it might allow some immigrants to remain in the U.S.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs2chicago.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; ingrates; invasionusa; protest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

It would be so easy to form small teams and do raids all over the country at construction sites and restaurants etc but they're not going to do that because it'll work.
Bingo.

The goal is not to solve the "problem". The goal is to placate "the masses", because to "the powers that be" (the Robber Baron employers and Our Glorious Leaders in government), it's NOT "a problem" -- the criminal aliens are an asset

WE, on the other hand -- We The People -- are a nuisance. So, we have to be placated.

I propose naming the Criminal Alien Entitlemant Act (the actual meaning of the "reform" proposal) to, the "Throw the Dog a Bone Act."

121 posted on 04/20/2006 11:17:10 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Marine Inspector; brytlea

History will laugh at us.

Only if we (the voters) let it.

The problem is, most people will keep voting for the idiots in office, instead of voting for a real conservative, because they are afraid a Democrat might get into office.

Conservatives have rolled over and let the party die.


He gets it.

The closer we get to the elections, the more the various shills and Party Operatives will pound us with demands that we once again hold our noses and vote for "the lesser of two evils."

If we balk, they will taunt us with stuff like,"What are you gonna do, elect Hillary?" -- and then "the base" will grab their noses and boogie on down to the polling stations.

122 posted on 04/20/2006 11:20:37 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: george wythe

“Try to imagine a mother trying to explain the meaning of the word ‘illegal’ to a 5-year-old boy,” immigrant advocate Roberto Lopez said.
Well golly, isn't that what the mothers of the children of other criminals have to do?

If this "logic" is to prevail, we'll need to release bank robbers, thieves, and so forth, because otherwise their poor wives will need to try to explain the meaning of "illegal" to their kids.

Good grief.

123 posted on 04/20/2006 11:25:47 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; george wythe

"They are not criminals. All they're here for is to work for their family," said Mariz Gomez.

However, they crossed the border illegally, Mariz. If they had entered the country LEGALLY, you wouldn't have anything to complain about.


"All they're here for is to work for their family," by stealing jobs from Americans, by stealing resources (free medical, "in-state" tuition, etc.) paid for by Americans, etc.

And this is different from someone who robs a bank "so that he can put food on the table for his kids and pay the bills" exactly HOW?

I'll tell you exactly how.

It's because there aren't twenty million bank robbers, forming a voting bloc for the politicians, and a "Coolie Labor" force for the employers.

Of course, those that the bank robbers pay using the money they stole could be counted on to wax indignant about how, "These good people who are only trying to improve their lot in life are helping the economy by spending the money they (ahem) 'earned.'"

124 posted on 04/20/2006 11:33:55 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Marine Inspector; afnamvet

ICE should start going after the corporations and businesses that hire illegals. Put the convicted tax cheats and traffickers in prison. Give them a cell mate named Bubba

That's the plan. I hope it works, but they have some major roadblocks.


The Robber Barons who benefit from the "New Coolie Economy" are the GOP's counterpart to Mark Rich.
125 posted on 04/20/2006 11:39:34 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

I hadn't though of the Carl Rove angle. Interesting.


126 posted on 04/20/2006 11:47:02 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Don Joe

The solution is so simple I'm suprised no one dare's utter it. Documented workers, simple. No citizenship, no anchor babies, no permanance. A simple regulated transitory labor force. Come here, work, leave...simple.


127 posted on 04/20/2006 11:47:13 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Don Joe
I don't think Congress was the intended audience.

Neither do I.

128 posted on 04/20/2006 11:47:32 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Don Joe
The idea of releasing highly probable flight-risks on their own recognizance is just plain braindead.

It's that whole due process thing. We can't hold them forever and the dates for the court hearings are far and few.

129 posted on 04/20/2006 11:48:57 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Thanx A. Lott

excellent...I know who to bother.


130 posted on 04/21/2006 12:04:47 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals/criminals)
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To: Marine Inspector
It's that whole due process thing. We can't hold them forever and the dates for the court hearings are far and few.

So what we need are labor camps contracted out to labor interests. Let them work doing the jobs Americans won't do while they wait for deportation. Catch and Release is so obviously pointless in wasting yall's time and effort.

131 posted on 04/21/2006 12:06:54 AM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Don Joe

"There, don't you feel better already?"

No...futures like that mean the Republic dies and divides.


132 posted on 04/21/2006 12:08:58 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals/criminals)
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To: Marine Inspector
Tempus fugit.

Here I am, getting ready to haul my carcass off to bed, when along comes another replay of Cavuto. This time I'm listening a little more attentively.

Julie "thirtybopper" Meyers tells him that SSA sent THIRTEEN notices to the company -- about SSNs that were no good -- which they ignored.

This was a pretty clear tip-off that something was going on, eh?

So, Cavuto says something about "so they notified you, and you began your investigation?"

She says no, we were already investigating. SSN is prohibited by law from passing that information to Homeland Security!

The system is INTENDED to protect Robber Baron employers!

The SSA is like an early-warning "DEW Line" -- they are the "tripwire" that alarms any time a criminal alien applies for work with bogus SS numbers.

So, what do they do by means of enforcement, to enable Homeland "Security" to apprehend the criminals?

NOTHING! They're not allowed to blow the whistle!

This is like installing a massive security system in your home, but having your town pass a law that makes it illegal for the security company to notify the police of a crime in progress! (Once a month, the company could send you a report listing the dates and times that you were burgled, but that's it!)

This is an outrage!

134 posted on 04/21/2006 2:09:14 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Dosa26
The solution is so simple I'm suprised no one dare's utter it. Documented workers, simple. No citizenship, no anchor babies, no permanance. A simple regulated transitory labor force. Come here, work, leave...simple.

A "Guest Worker Plan"? Gee, why didn't anyone think of that?

Oh, right -- they DID!

In fact, they hammered us with it for about a year, until "the public" was softened up sufficiently to give Our Leaders confidence that they could bring it to the floor of the legislature.

Funny thing, though -- when it got to the legislature, after they'd flogged us with the "need" for a "Guest Worker Plan", the "Guest Worker Plan" magically -- and instantaneously -- morphed into a fast-track CITIZENZHIP/Amnesty program for criminal aliens!

NO more talk of "guest workers". Nope. Now, it was all about CITIZENSHIP.

This of course tells us that it was always "about citizenship" -- and that the "guest worker" stuff was just a gambit -- a pretext -- to get the subject up for a vote.

The "Guest Worker Plan" was a scam -- it was "the camel's nose under the tent" -- it was a LIE, used solely for the purpose of getting the voters to finally say OK, OK, enough, go ahead, give it a shot.

I mean, they couldn't very well have barked at us for the past year about how what we really needed was an AMNESTY program with a fast-track CITIZENSHIP provision for the criminal aliens who are bustin' our national hump, now could they.

So, they did what comes natural to 'em. They LIED.

When a low-life comes knocking on your door to rob your house, he doesn't say, "Hi, I'd like to come in and rob your house. May I?" Instead, he says, "Help! My car broke down, and my pregnant wife is in labor! I've got to get help! Can I use your phone?" When you say OK, he's in, and you're toast.

What I'm getting at, obviously, is that if Our Glorious Leaders ever DO get drummed out of office, they will be able to find work in the private sector. All they'll need to do is go door to door explaining about the pregnant wife in labor, stuck in the broke-down car, and...

They obviously have the skills, experience, "morals", and NERVE to engage in that kind of "career".

135 posted on 04/21/2006 2:21:47 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Marine Inspector
The idea of releasing highly probable flight-risks on their own recognizance is just plain braindead.

It's that whole due process thing. We can't hold them forever and the dates for the court hearings are far and few.

In my state, it's common for different jurisdictions to take prisoners from other jurisdictions for a modest fee (to balance out capacity vs. need ratios).

I'm sure "Sheriff Joe" could be persuaded to erect a few more tents in the Arizona desert to house the criminal aliens, and I understand his costs are fairly low. If they don't like that sort of accomodations, then they could consider staying in Mexico next time.

136 posted on 04/21/2006 2:26:29 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Marine Inspector
PS:

As to the time issue, they manage to find a way around it when they want to, i.e., various terrorist defendants are classified "enemy combatants", and are then kept on ice as long as necessary.

If criminal aliens -- some Mexican, some "Other Than Mexican", from varous middle eastern countries -- don't like them apples, well, there's no law that says they have to sneak across our border in the first place.

I don't see why, "in time of war" (as we're constantly reminded), it should be assumed that anyone sneaking into the country would NOT be presumed to be an enemy combatant.

Is this harsh?

No harsher than watching our nation being consumed bit by bit, with no end in sight.

The stakes are pretty damned high, as in "our national survival." I'd say that inconveniencing some criminal aliens (who should have known better than to smuggle themselves into the country) is "the lesser of two evils", given the nature of the OTHER "evil" -- our own demise.

Obviously I don't expect any of this to be done -- because I do not believe that the government is serious about dealing with the situation.

I believe they are still stuck on the idiotic goal of placating us, by coming up with "good" enough BS to pump up our pants, so that we won't give them a hard time as they continue with the original plan.

137 posted on 04/21/2006 2:35:35 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
I propose naming the Criminal Alien Entitlemant Act (the actual meaning of the "reform" proposal) to, the "Throw the Dog a Bone Act."

It makes me wonder how many times they have to be told they're not fooling anybody before it sinks in.

138 posted on 04/21/2006 5:31:16 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: brytlea

>History wll laugh at us.<

No, our original method of government will never hit future history books. They will devoted to the glorification of the New World Order Communism - in Spanish, no less!


139 posted on 04/21/2006 9:21:09 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Paperdoll

You may well be right.
susie


140 posted on 04/21/2006 9:32:15 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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