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Venues of vulgarity
The Washington Times ^ | 4-19-06 | Mona Charen

Posted on 04/19/2006 11:03:03 AM PDT by JZelle

A couple of weeks ago I was felled by a particularly nasty flu. Too sick even to read, I listened to radio and watched television for long hours every day. What I heard and saw was not conducive to recovery. I admit to being a little "out of the loop" as I almost never watch entertainment television on the major stations. But the level of vulgarity that now seems utterly ordinary is just unbelievable. Bud Light has a series of radio commercials that celebrate "Real Men of Genius," a very tongue-in-cheek tribute to the ordinary guys whose greatest accomplishment, these ads seem to suggest, is filling their bellies with light beer. One of these "tributes" was aimed at "Mr. Supermarket Produce Putter Outer" and went like this:

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To: JZelle
If I get together with a few buddies over beer and a campfire, I might talk like this--probably will, in fact--but I find the vulgarization of society disgusting.

I never heard my father use vulgar language--my father or my mother.

And my children have never heard me talk that way. They never will.

21 posted on 04/19/2006 11:29:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: JZelle
Oops. Hooters crowd. Wrong room.
22 posted on 04/19/2006 11:29:53 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I'm a single issue voter this year: illegal immigration.)
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To: misterrob

Maybe you should have listened to your mother.


23 posted on 04/19/2006 11:30:38 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: LexBaird
"You sell bad beer by appealing to Animal House sensabilities.

Fixed it for you. Good beer sells itself.

24 posted on 04/19/2006 11:32:01 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Killborn

But something has to be done.




Such as?


25 posted on 04/19/2006 11:33:07 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Well said.


26 posted on 04/19/2006 11:33:07 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: fr_freak

I always hear the change the channel argument--not sure how you do that when you are out in public. It never fails that I hear someone talking vulgar walking through a store--often times they are talking on a cell phone.


27 posted on 04/19/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Nonstatist

I read the ad copy provided by Mona, and it seemed more bawdy than vulgar. "Girls Gone Wild" and Howard Stern are vulgar. Some works of literature containing a similar level of bawdy or suggestive writing as the ad are considered great works of art.

No, I am not saying the ad is great art or literature. If people think it is inappropriate for the radio, they should complain to a station's sponsors.


28 posted on 04/19/2006 11:36:44 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: JZelle

If Ms. Charen is upset about vulgarity in the Bud Lite commercials, wait till she sees the animated bears in the Charmin bathroom tissue commercials. And don't even get me started on the Victoria's Secret ads. These have been known to shut down the noisiest Thursday night poker game instantly...


29 posted on 04/19/2006 11:38:00 AM PDT by Exeter (If Life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat the damn lemons!)
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To: trubluolyguy
But until the television becomes a necessity in every American household, I don't see "enforceable standards" coming any time soon.

I don't understand what you mean. We've had enforceable standards, enforced by the FCC, since TV began. Its just that now there appears to be no will to enforce them, and after people have been bombarded by crudity long enough, they have come to accept such things as commonplace.
30 posted on 04/19/2006 11:39:34 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Cecily

I can't remember the product, but they had one radio ad where two women were talking to each other in seductive tones. "Is this your first time, etc. etc." It made you think they were talking about getting it on with each other and then turned out to be something else entirely of course. I sent them a letter that I didn't like the ad and they responded that it was some kind of ironic comedy blah, blah, blah. I was hearing this on a radio station that plays all conservative talk radio BTW. I think the radio station or the company got enough complaints because it was soon never heard from again.


31 posted on 04/19/2006 11:42:13 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: TexasCajun

"Have you been to your local mall lately?
You can see and hear things that just make you shake your head and wonder who raised this kids?"

I'm on my way right now! Thanks! [grin]


32 posted on 04/19/2006 11:43:06 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: beaversmom

In my opinion, we all need to speak right up when teenagers speak like that young woman did. Just pipe right up and say, "Watch your mouth, young lady!"

I've done it many times, and it shuts the kids right up. They can't believe that some adult has told them what to do. Try it. You'll feel better, and the kids will get a lesson from an adult.


33 posted on 04/19/2006 11:46:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: JZelle

Many of the "Real Men of Genius" ads are very clever and funny. Some are vulgar and are not even subtle about it.

The shampoo ad I find embarrassing even when I'm watching TV alone, much less when I'm with the wife and kids. (Although I do recall the wife sort of giggling at that one the last time we saw it.) I've never had any kind of sensation from a shampoo, although a friend of mine tells me that one version of Head and Shoulders makes his head feel as if it were covered in ice.

I haven't seen the Hardee's Paris Hilton ad, but we don't have Hardee's here. I did find it on a google search, but the way it's described, it's probably not something I want to view here at work.

I thought the Pepto ad was kind of funny, although I can usually can do without explicit references to vomiting and excretory functions. We all know what Pepto is for. But, of the ads Mona mentioned, this one is at least about the product it is advertising. How are the other ads really about the merits of Bud Light or Herbal Essence?

One thing she didn't mention was the evolution of toilet paper ads. Back in the day, we had ads with Mr. Whipple imploring his customers not to squeeze the Charmin. "But it's so squeeably soft" replied the customers, and they proved it by brushing a few squares against a cheek. Well, any toilet roll all rolled up is going to be soft, even the dreaded Scott one-ply, and we all knew that the cheek on which Charmin's softness was demonstrated was not the cheek on which it was actually used. Not even close. But, just in case we didn't get it, the toilet paper companies have decided to become more explicit with their ads. So one of them has an ad that is obviously a take-off of the old expression, "Does a bear s**t in the woods?" and another has people wiggling their clean, fragrant and happy backsides, which are clean, fragrant and happy due to the use of a certain toilet paper.

I hate to imagine what is coming next.


34 posted on 04/19/2006 11:46:53 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (A tiny figure, tattered and torn, moving across the barren landscape.....)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe
I've worked in radio for about 30 years, been a major market production director and written/voiced/produced literally thousands of radio commercials, both local and nationally syndicated. And I specialize in humorous commercials. I've never done ads that rely on vulgarity, for two reasons:

1. It's too cheap and easy. I'm a paid professional; I should be able to come up with something more clever and creative than the scatalogical jokes you might hear in a junior high locker room.

2. No matter how funny they may be, they will offend some listeners, and you're not doing your client a service by alienating potential customers. I always say, the first priority is to sell the product, but priority #2 is not to actively drive customers away.

BTW, my nominee for the most disgusting commercial (even though it's not nearly as graphic as most) is the one for the diarrhea medicine where the guy is suddenly struck with an attack while he's in the hotel hot tub with two women and has to quickly rush out with his knees together. I may never get into another hotel hot tub.

35 posted on 04/19/2006 11:47:32 AM PDT by HHFi
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To: RyanM
My ex-wife and I had TVs in virtually every room in the house. When we broke up, I simply ceded her all the TVs with the attitude that, "I can always get another one next payday." That was almost four years ago. I haven't paid a cable bill, stressed over missing a cable payment, or wasted a single second of time surfing for something to watch, looking for the remote control, or looking for batteries for the remote control.

I've read volumes of books I'd have never touched otherwise, rediscovered some old hobbies, found a few new ones, listen to a lot more music and my dogs and I get enough exercise to ensure we all sleep soundly virtually every night. These days, I often wonder how I ever had time to watch TV.

All of my news comes via internet or radio. I'll buy the rare DVD to watch on my laptop, and even more infrequently, I'll actually pay admission at a theater for a movie, but I'm willing to bet that on any given day I feel far more on top of current events, and more satisfactorily entertained than most people who rely on their TVs. I remember dad always calling the TV, 'the idiot box,' and now, years later, I fully understand why.

I do have to admit that maybe once every two months or so, I'll hear a radio ad for a History Channel special and wish that I had a TV, but investing in a TV and contracting with a satellite or cable service for one hour of quality entertainment every 60 days passes no cost-benefit analysis criteria of which I'm aware. When I first set out on my TV-free lifestyle, there were moments of self-doubt when I feared becoming 'out of touch' with contemporary culture. Now, when I look at contemporary culture, I miss it in the same way I would miss being out of touch with a bucket of arsenic or an aquarium full of rattlesnakes.

36 posted on 04/19/2006 11:47:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: fr_freak

I don't understand what you mean.



I guess what I mean is that if you don't like what is shown on tv, don't have cable. It's not a necessity. As far as content and standards....this is NOT the 1950's. No one is interested in "Father Knows Best" unless they are old enough to remember watching that type of show in black and white. Honestly I am sure even then older folks complained that they could see some ankle on some teenage girl on some show no one remembers anymore anyway. Every generation has this problem, the older generation can't stand what passes for entertainment, and thinks that somehow everything would be great if we could just go back to the way things used to be. I think it would be great if we could wave a magic wand and be rid of tv altogether but I'm not holding my breathe.


37 posted on 04/19/2006 11:49:15 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: goodnesswins

Why shouldn't their ads be tasteless? Their beer sure as hell is!


38 posted on 04/19/2006 11:50:12 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Nonstatist
Mr. Fancy Coffee Shop Coffee Pourer Guy:

"What are you going to do with that art history degree you just earned? That's right, you're going to get a nose ring, and work at a fancy coffee shop, and pour fancy coffees."

Those are darn funny. Sure they stretch the limits on taste sometimes, but they're selling BEER!

Some people seriously need to lighten up - we've gone through this in the 50's, 60's 70's 80's - sure it gets cruder and more crass. Remember the Archie Bunker show?

America will be alright.

39 posted on 04/19/2006 11:51:38 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: RyanM

Or you can live with TV and buy/rent a DVR.

DVR allows you to spin past the commercials and get to the program. No more watching those stupid commercials..

IMHO, that's the only way to view TV any way.


40 posted on 04/19/2006 11:53:05 AM PDT by bugsplat (Too much time on my hands to be normal)
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