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LA Woman Hospitalized With Bubonic Plague
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | Apr 18 9:15 PM US/Eastern | ALICIA CHANG

Posted on 04/18/2006 8:54:50 PM PDT by berilhertz

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To: hershey
The joys of open borders

Bubonic Plague has been in the Western part of the US for at least 150 years.

61 posted on 04/19/2006 2:25:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill)
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To: berilhertz

I am suddenly thrilled about the feral cat population in my neighborhood....


62 posted on 04/19/2006 2:26:32 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (http://folding.stanford.edu/ - - - -Folding@home. Free Republic team 36120)
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To: hershey; bubbleb; berilhertz; BurbankKarl; Harmless Teddy Bear
Hershey wrote: "The joys of open borders.

We won't bother about the bioterrorism aspect. Sweep that under the rug.

Hepatitis C, too.



Hershey, those are all simple yet terribly inaccurate, and misleading assessments of this particular case. Please read the following:

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63 posted on 04/19/2006 2:29:03 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476; hershey
Why are we confusing him with facts? He has an template to follow.

Everything is caused by either illegal aliens or Muslim terrorists and of course our government is covering it up.

It is the FR version of "It's all Bush's Fault!"

64 posted on 04/19/2006 2:35:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill)
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To: bd476

I don't mind - I was really just relating how people's negligence can spread disease vectors in ways no one sane can counter. Every time I read about one of those "cat ladies" I fear for the health of all of the unsung heroes who have to deal with the cleanup.

Date Palm Tree Rats...all this time I thought those were what everyone called Squirrels. Seriously, they're not the rodents these reports have been about, but I wouldn't put anything past the opportunists passing themselves off as journalists in lower California. One report had a distraught mother having to shake the gnawing rats off of her infant.


65 posted on 04/19/2006 2:39:07 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
NewRomeTacitus wrote: "One report had a distraught mother having to shake the gnawing rats off of her infant."


That's a report I would like to read. In school I read something similar in The Jungle by Upton Sinclair but of course that was a fictional account about rats in a meat processing plant.

66 posted on 04/19/2006 2:59:23 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476; Borax Queen
The best, cheapest and least toxic method for getting rid of fleas is sprinkling Borax all over the floor, leaving it in place for 24 hours, then vaccuuming it up and repeating the procedure several times a week until the fleas are completely gone.

If I'd known of those miraculous properties at the time I surely would have saved myself a lot of misery. But I'm talking about the family who had to endure scabies treatments not a year before that. Sulfer baths and public ridicule. On reflection there's no way I can be sane after all of that backward BS. No, they kicked me out because I eventually got strong enough to beat the redneck back (lightweight kitchen chairs are often tougher than they look) and I happily lived on Lookout Mountain (just under Rock City) with Scout training until arrested as a runaway while visiting a friend to pick up soap and paper.

I'ts a long story but my health and hygiene was far better during the two months I was playing the hermit in a cave by a mountain stream. Never saw a rat out there once - that species may have evolved to follow mankind around specifically. We certainly throw out enough edible waste out to sustain them.

67 posted on 04/19/2006 3:16:42 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; hershey
Harmless Teddy Bear, I only know about the plague from living in Los Angeles a long time. Hershey may be unaware of Los Angeles' long history of plague existing in Los Angeles' area ground squirrels, chipmunks and rats.

This story is getting a lot of attention because of the titillating headline.

Unfortunately journalists often take advantage of concurrent stories. They sometimes attempt to make exaggerated and very inaccurate connecting tie-ins from one story to the next.

For example, Los Angeles has been in the headlines because of the marching illegal immigrants.

Then there is the constant national alert which warns of a potential deadly form of bio-terrorism, which again, in this case implies an inaccurate relationship.

Without the marching illegal immigrants and threat of bio-terrorism, this story is simply about 1 person out of 9,600,000 people contracting an illness in Los Angeles.

68 posted on 04/19/2006 3:23:31 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

I thought of the Sinclair story myself while reading it - but I saw it in print somewhere in the late 1990s regardless.

Please pardon my mentioning something without an immediately accessed link. You've encouraged me to be more stringent.


69 posted on 04/19/2006 3:28:30 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: All
Life follows House. Last night's episode of House featured ... Bubonic Plague.
70 posted on 04/19/2006 3:35:56 AM PDT by sono ("If Congressional brains were cargo, there'd be nothing to unload." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
That's an experience you'll probably never forget. Hope you are also writing about your experiences for an eventual biography. Your perspective might serve to help others. :-)

71 posted on 04/19/2006 3:36:00 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476; hershey
Well maybe. I knew about it from learning US history as a youngster.

Or he could actually read the article.

The last major urban outbreak in the U.S. occurred in Los Angeles in 1924-25, when at least 30 people died.

I am tired of people leaving their critical thinking skills at the door.

72 posted on 04/19/2006 3:36:53 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
NewRomeTacitus wrote: "I thought of the Sinclair story myself while reading it - but I saw it in print somewhere in the late 1990s regardless.
Please pardon my mentioning something without an immediately accessed link. You've encouraged me to be more stringent."


And I only mentioned The Jungle because when I read it as a kid, it was one of my most favorite, grossest books. :-) Also I knew zero about its political implications back then.

When I wrote that I'd like to read the story you related, that was just a comment about my wanting to read. I was not asking for a link, so no worries.

73 posted on 04/19/2006 3:44:38 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Harmless Teddy Bear wrote: "Well maybe. I knew about it from learning US history as a youngster."

Congratulations on getting a good education then. I understand your frustration. So many just read the title of a story and believe they've read the book.

74 posted on 04/19/2006 3:47:24 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Proudly posting without reading the articles? :)

Don't mind me. I am in a bit of a grump this morning and this just hit me the wrong way.

Have a wonderful day!

75 posted on 04/19/2006 3:53:12 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill)
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To: RushCrush

Simple antibiotics cure it if caught early...(but maybe not fast enough for the rare pulmonic type).
The bad news is that for most lymphnode enlargements, you use different antibiotics.

So if you get plague, hope your doc worked on the Navajo reservation and has seen some cases. They get a few cases a year there.


76 posted on 04/19/2006 3:56:36 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Harmless Teddy Bear wrote: "Proudly posting without reading the articles? :)

Fortunately that does not describe my modus operandus. However, if it did, it certainly would be nothing to brag about.

Harmless Teddy Bear wrote: "...Don't mind me. I am in a bit of a grump this morning and this just hit me the wrong way. Have a wonderful day!"

How could anyone bear a grudge against Harmless Teddy Bear? Have a good day, too! :-)

77 posted on 04/19/2006 4:10:44 AM PDT by bd476
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To: hedgetrimmer

Something like 1/3 of the world population has TB, usually in a dormant and non-contagious state.

Sometimes what happens is that a person gets immune system problems due to drugs, radiation, HIV, etc. and then becomes active and infectious.

TB takes a year to treat correctly. In most countries the sick person gets enough pills to force the TB into a dormant state, then they get sick again a few months later with a drug-resistant version.


78 posted on 04/19/2006 4:16:16 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: LadyDoc
Simple antibiotics cure it if caught early...

True enough. Last year a couple from Santa Fe NM contracted it from local rodents and were vacationing in NYC when it took hold. The local docs didn't figure it out fast enough and the man lost both legs below the knee.

79 posted on 04/19/2006 4:21:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: berilhertz

Was this legal or illegal plague?




80 posted on 04/19/2006 5:17:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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