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Should New Mexico Still Belong to Mexico?
FOXNews.com ^ | April 18, 2006

Posted on 04/18/2006 12:56:16 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," April 17, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: A movement calling for Mexico to take over America's Southwest to create a new nation called Aztlan has entered the immigration debate. Supporters of this movement participated in the recent nationwide immigration protest.

The Web site ImmigrationWatchdog.com has produced a three-minute videotape of speeches by Hispanic professors and elected officials making reference to Aztlan.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas, because we belong here.

We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They're dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLMES: Joining us now, the man behind ImmigrationWatchdog.com, Brook Young.

Mr. Young, The Washington Times had a story on this whole movement just yesterday and quoted a number of people allegedly in this moment, and they say these are just fringe people. This is not what they're doing. This is really an effort on the part of anti-immigrant forces like yourself to gin up people's emotions in terms of there being a movement that really doesn't exist except on the far fringe.

BROOK YOUNG, IMMIGRATIONWATCHDOG.COM: Oh. Well, there's definitely a movement. This isn't a fringe movement. These are college professors speaking in this video. This is them. This is their voices. This is what they believe in. It's what they teach. These are political leaders of the Latino leaders.

COLMES: I'd like to know who's doing this. Fredrico Rangel of the University of Colorado. He's an officer at MEChA. And he says that this is a.....

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; aztlan; illegals; immigrantlist; rally; tanklan
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To: mountainlyons

Hey, maybe that's a plan! Eventually they would beg us to take it back! Kinda like the Ransom of Redchief!
susie


41 posted on 04/18/2006 1:30:48 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: skeeter

True. From what I gather, the legal immigrants from Mexico are fairly conservative. The illegals that vote here will vote for the Dems because the illegals will have an easier time in life. On election day 2004, when I offered my driver's license for ID before I voted, I was told I didn't need to show ID. Americans need to take back our country. If you are not an American citizen, YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE! (PS. My husband is a naturalized citizen. He came in legally and waited the proper amount of time to apply for citizenship.)


42 posted on 04/18/2006 1:31:55 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: SwinneySwitch
We are migrants free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas, because we belong here. Maybe so, but if they try to travel through Quebec, the Language Police will arrest them if they don't speak French.
43 posted on 04/18/2006 1:34:52 PM PDT by Utahrd
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To: RegulatorCountry
Somehow, I don't think these eggheads have asked that question to legal US citizens who reside in New Mexico.

Of course not.

The good citizens of the state of New Mexico would not vote to become part of Mexico.

For that matter, I am not sure that the illegals living in New Mexico would want it to become part of Mexico. Then they would have to move somewhere else to find jobs!

44 posted on 04/18/2006 1:35:06 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: SwinneySwitch
He's an officer at MEChA

Is that any relationship whatsoever to Mecca? This and the ACCESS (Arab Community Center for Economic and Social Success)banners the Mexican demonstrators were carrying, AND the suspiciousness of the simultaneous protests in several American cities, make me feel like there is a Muslim connection somehow....

Just paranoid!?!??
45 posted on 04/18/2006 1:36:16 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims)
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To: Logophile
Funny! On a previous thread someone pointed out that if California did become a part of Mexico, Mexicans would just have to go further north to find American work.
46 posted on 04/18/2006 1:37:37 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: uglybiker

My mom (who is from New Mexico) tells this story about when they first bought their house in CT. Our next door neighbor asked if she had any trouble crossing the border ...

LOL


47 posted on 04/18/2006 1:38:03 PM PDT by Betis70 (moto weather is back)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Just Paranoid. MEChA is an acronym--Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan--Chicano Student's Movement of Aztlan or something like that.
48 posted on 04/18/2006 1:41:11 PM PDT by Betis70 (moto weather is back)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I think we settled issues like this in 1865.


49 posted on 04/18/2006 1:42:41 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: holden

Yes the left will sell out Americans.
What a surprise, I must have missed it for the past 60 years.
I am beginning to notice a little selling by the RINOS also.

It's a shame, we the voters have came to the point when voting, we must hold our nose while selecting a candidate, even form our own party, GOP!


50 posted on 04/18/2006 1:49:42 PM PDT by buck61
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To: Betis70

We shall see...... we shall see......


51 posted on 04/18/2006 1:51:07 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims)
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To: RJS1950

Tell that to President Polk. As a matter of fact, Mexico stole what is now Chiapas from Guatemala in the aftermath of the Mexican war for independence from Spain. They did not pay for it like we paid for what we received at the end of the Mexican War, which was a good 20 years after Mexico achieved its independence, by the way.


52 posted on 04/18/2006 1:51:39 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: SpinnerWebb

Well I meant more your assertion that the words Mecca and MEChA were close to each other, ergo they must be related.

They are marxists at their core, so I have no doubt they would team up with the terrorist types at the drop of a hat.


53 posted on 04/18/2006 1:58:29 PM PDT by Betis70 (moto weather is back)
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To: brytlea
Yes, I know. I was just back in NM for a month. Forgot how much I love that state, altho it's changed alot too.

NM is quite a nice state, vacationed there last week. The people are so friendly, hope to visit again soon. At least before it becomes part of the new peoples republic of... just kidding. (I hope)

54 posted on 04/18/2006 2:10:56 PM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: Nachum
This appeared in my In-Box today. Sound as if it could be correct.

"By Frosty Wooldridge
March 20, 2006
NewsWithViews.com


In 1836, legends Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Travis, along with 180 fearless men, fought Santa Anna's two thousand Mexican troops at the Alamo in San Antonio , Texas . No contest! Santa Anna killed every last one of those brave men. Six weeks later, with a cry of "Remember the Alamo", Texans beat back the Mexican army and established Texas as part of the United States of America .

Today, Mexico 's declaration of war on America moves with quickening speed. Their modern day general known as President Vicente Fox is not content with retaking Texas . He invades all American states.
As a premier, many of you watch the History Channel with WWII footage showing Germans and their tanks charging into Poland . You watched their tanks crush the French.

Did any of you watch the 100,000 illegal Mexicans and others storm
Chicago , Illinois March 10, 2006? How many Mexican insurgents stand on American soil? At last count, in excess of 9,000,000 illegal Mexicans!

It's the largest invasion force without firing a shot EVER on American
soil. This invasion is encouraged, abetted and organized by the Mexican state and supported by all citizens in Mexican society. Fox provides his 'troops' with maps, water, provisions and aid to invade America 's border.

What are the desires of Mexico ? Lawrence Auster, in his "The Second Mexican War" February 17, 2006, wrote, "In orchestrating this war on America , the Mexican state represents the desires of the Mexican people as a whole:

Political re vanchism-to regain control of the territories lost to the
U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliation they feel
they suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; In effect,
Mexico is colonizing the United States . Cultural imperialism-to expand
the Mexican culture and Spanish language into North America . They
destroy English as America 's language. Economic parasitism-to maintain and increase the flow of $20 billion dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican system cocooned its status quo." They use us against ourselves to benefit themselves.

Americans watch a peaceful invasion and the most profound colonization in modern history. Carlos de Mola for Mexico's Excelsior Newspaper said, "You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave of an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed and carried on in the face of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth.it is slowly returning the southwestern U.S. to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady, spontaneous and uninterrupted occupation."

What you're watching-and most Americans only keep watching without a whimper-the takeover of America by a foreign country by colonization. One of Fox's cabinet officers, Juan Hernandez said, "The Mexican population is 100 million and 23 million who live in the United States ."

Heather MacDonald, in the City Journal, Fall 2005, wrote, " Mexico 's
five-year development plan in 1995 announced that the 'Mexican nation extends its border into the United States . The government would strengthen solidarity programs with the Mexican communities abroad by emphasizing their Mexican roots, and supporting literacy programs in Spanish and teaching of the history, values and traditions of Mexico to those Mexicans living in the United States . We are betting the Mexican population in the U.S. will think Mexico first.'"
Not only are they invading America in numbers and language, they
financially bleed Americans of jobs, depress wages and send money to Mexico . In time, they will be able to deny authority of American law
because they will vote against American laws and/or change them to fit their purposes.

A simple look at what happened in Chicago a week ago portends violent confrontations in the future. We allow the complete surrender of U.S. sovereignty over our immigration policy. Fox loves it as his
'insurgents' grow by three million annually on U.S. soil. (source: Time
Magazine, September 20, 2004, America 's Broken Borders) Auster wrote, "Hitler pursed 'Anschluss', the joining together of the Germans in Austria with the Germans in Germany leading the official annexation of Austria to Germany . Mexico 's equivalent is 'acercamiento' which means 'warmer relations' to act as a unified block to advance Mexico 's interests inside the U.S. and.weakening of U.S. immigration law. Thus, the Mexican government is using the Mexican U.S. population as a fifth column."

As you can see, we allow 56 Mexican consulates in major cities
throughout America to foster this invasion with help and guidance inside the belly of America . Those consulates distribute 'Guia del Migrante Mexicano' which is a guide for illegals to further imbed themselves into America without getting caught.

Auster wrote, "It has been proposed that Mexicans in the U.S. vote in
Mexican elections. California Mexicans would have seats in the Mexican Congress, specifically representing Mexicans residing in that state. One of Mexico 's three major parties, the PRD, urges the designation of the entire United States as the sixth Mexican electoral district."

Winston Churchill wrote in his "Follies of the Victors," that the
Germans were given a 'motive' for revenge; later, an opportunity to
strike back. By the same stroke of history, the U.S. gave Mexico a
'motive' in 1848, and today, an 'opportunity' by allowing mass
migration. In other words, we gave Fox this opportunity; he took it and
now General Fox dictates terms to us. Who are his generals?
Specifically--U.S. Congressman Joe Baca in California works for
'Reconquista de Aztlan' along with Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles ,
U.S. Congressman Chris Cannon of Utah and dozens of others on U.S. soil.

Not only that, he can count on an American foot soldier George Bush and most of the U.S. Congress. Fox counts on the silence of U.S. governors in all 50 states. Who are his foot soldiers? Nine million Mexicans spread across 49 states and growing! If the guest worker program passes this month, you're looking at adding 60 million Mexicans to America within 10 years. Over 18 million will be
Spanish speaking children flooding our schools. Yes, if even half those 12 million illegal Mexicans bring in six million wives under Specter's or Kennedy's guest worker programs, those wives will bring at least three children each. Thus, you're looking at 18 million more kids within a heartbeat in time-hitting our schools. If even half the single Mexicans have one child each in ten years, we're talking six million more kids. This is war and colonization under the name of immigration.

Americans, what are you going to do about it? All I can say is,
"Remember the Alamo !" "
55 posted on 04/18/2006 2:20:36 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: originalbuckeye
(PS. My husband is a naturalized citizen. He came in legally and waited the proper amount of time to apply for citizenship.)

So's my wife.

BTW having a spouse that speaks a foreign language is pretty enlightening at times - according her, her foreign language media here is flat LYING about what congress is doing in order to get that particular segment of the population fired up about immigration reform, ie they are saying congress is going to cut off all benefits to non-citizens by this July (don't I wish).

Balkanization at its worst. Its no wonder there were half a million latinos in the streets in LA a few weeks back.

56 posted on 04/18/2006 2:24:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: SwinneySwitch

If you give it to anyone, give it to the Apaches. The Mexicans couldn't beat them, either.


57 posted on 04/18/2006 2:26:39 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SwinneySwitch
This is ridiculous.

Should New Guinea belong to Guinea?
Should New York belong to York?
Should New Haven belong to Haven?
Should New Orleans belong to Orleans?
Should New Brunswick belong to Brunswick (Braunschweig)?

58 posted on 04/18/2006 2:29:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: RJS1950

"Why don't they try to lay claim to El Salvador, or Venezuela." (?)

Because, like politicians, they think they can get rich quick in America.

What do El Salvador and Venezuela (Honduras, Costa Rica, et al) have to offer that Mexicans really would like to have?


59 posted on 04/18/2006 2:35:18 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: bagman

Half Way right, Stephen Austin when he started his colony began dealing with the Spaniards. Since Spain didn't recognize Mexico until the Treaty of Cordova in 1824....It was then Austins desire to be a MEXICAN, until Santa Ana broke faith in any kind of Republican Gov't of the People, By the People and For the People on his campaign to get rid of the Texas Rebels in his campaigns of 1835-1836-


60 posted on 04/18/2006 2:35:41 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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