Posted on 04/18/2006 10:13:22 AM PDT by strategofr
Putin=unrepentant communist
And Russia and china continue to prepare for war....
If a Democrat does not win in '08, things will start to go really haywire in 2009.
IMHO, the Iranians/Ruskies would love to sucker us into Iran...I beleive a large nulear annihilation of our conventional forces would ensue. In October of 2008 no american leader will have the cajones then to pull the retaliatory nuclear response.
"If a Democrat does not win in '08, things will start to go really haywire in 2009."
Unless the Republican is smart enough to get out really fast.
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Please excuse me now, while my head explodes............"
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""If a Democrat does not win in '08, things will start to go really haywire in 2009."
Unless the Republican is smart enough to get out really fast."
My statement was ridiculous. I retract it. You are correct.
ping
I have referenced you in this analysis of mine, but unfortunately misspelled your name by capitalizing the H. Anyhow, I wanted you to know I referenced you.
Unless of course the timetable is a bit ahead of your estimate and Iran has the Nukes they need. The goal may be to get the US to mass its troops for an Iranian nuclear first strike. Who then could guard the barn?
There is a new version of the Black Panthers, can't recall the exact name. they have formed to get justice over this Duke thing, with the team, it's not rugby but, you know, the fake rape.
That got some audio on this guy, and it is a simple provocation. In so many words, by his tone and the implications in between the words---he is threatening violence toward every white person who hears him if they do not deliver a conviction on this rape case---a case that is false on the face of it.
Excuse me, but the Black Panthers were communist in the 1960s and their communist now. This guy is delivering the same message that the Hispanic guys are delivering and the same message that bin Laden is delivering.
There is no question that the intended effect is psychological---and that it is cumulative---as well is designed to create confusion and frustration.
To exit from my Ping list, just send me one request to that effect, public or private.
To me, this just (below) looks like more of the same stuff---they are trying to whip up Americans into a level of hysteria.
The more it goes on, the more confident I feel about my basic idea---the two keys are Iraq and Hillary's 2008 election prospects. what they desperately seem to need to do in my opinion, is to draw us into one or more other conflicts---and paralyze our ability to work through the Iraq thing properly.
"In a just concluded debate and press conference, author and FBI Consultant Paul Williams and Jeff Epstein of "America's Truth Forum" reveal they have been advised by Pakistani journalist and Bin Laden biographer Hamid Amir that Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.
Amir established his credentials by correctly predicting that Egypt would be hit by terrorist action a full two weeks prior to the events of last week. Amir, a Pakistani journalist, has been in contact with high ranking Al-Qaeda officials for several years.
The debate (between Richard Miniter and Paul Williams) and press conference were webcast LIVE by Rightalk.com. Audio files of both events will be available for downloading by this afternoon."
"Black Panthers. Usefull commie idiots as you have indicated.
America full of em. So many forms, some so subtil others so blatant. Not much one can do to kick out hundreds of thousands of front orgs.."
True. But we don't need to kick them out to win. All we need to do is to maintain our cool. If this were not true, they would not be trying so hard to induce hysteria in us.
"Unless of course the timetable is a bit ahead of your estimate and Iran has the Nukes they need. The goal may be to get the US to mass its troops for an Iranian nuclear first strike. Who then could guard the barn?"
I see your logic, but remember, I see the Iranians as mere pawns of the Russians. Not that the strategy you mention couldn't theoretically work for the Russians as well.
However, I believe the Russians do not want a nuclear exchange between Iran and their enemies. I believe they are willing to risk it---and in a very broad sense, even face a small risk of a nuclear attack on Russia. (A person who has done a lot of study on the system of shelters the Russians have for nuclear weapons and Russian nuclear weapon technology since the breakup of the Soviet Union is JR Nyquist, in his book Origins of the Fourth World War. I don't agree with his conclusion that the Russians are planning a nuclear war, but his information has some relevance.)
I do not believe Russia wants either of these things do happen (use of Iranian nukes or a nuclear attack on Russia). I believe the Russians are playing the Iranian card now to distract America.
Nonetheless, I think your thought is worthwhile. Such a possibility needs to be considered from now on. I imagine our concentration of forces before the Iraq war would have been vulnerable to a nuclear strike.
Of course, if I am right and the Russians are behind it---simply bringing an awareness of this to our government and starting to prove it would change the entire game, wouldn't it? The possibility of the Iranians taking out a large part of the U. S. Army with a few nuclear weapons doesn't sound so good if the US figures out the Russians are behind it.
And really, isn't Russian culpability in the Iranian nuclear capability already established to a reasonable extent? They have been building nuclear reactors and providing the Iranians with missile technology since 1997 (Iran's Nuclear Option, Al J. Venter, Casemate, 2005)
"Putin is to host this year's G-8 Summit and he has declared it to be about "energy security".
One of the largest hindrances to getting Iraq off the ground is its oil production, thus the purpose of terrorism is not only about a supposed "civil war" bloodletting but as much about prevention of their oil production.
Now the Marxist oil producing countries around the world that would include Russia are sure not in opposition in making some extra dollars. Russia did have some major contracts with old Saddam that we caused to become nonexistent. I imagine a whole lot of payback is planned because of that."
Many of our enemies are benefiting from a high price of oil, including Iran, Russia, and Venezuela. I agree that this is an important part of their strategy. Even the Democrats in the US are benefiting politically. It hurts China, but no strategy is perfect.
This acts in concert with Chinese expansion of energy consumption and agressive attempts to control new resources in the petroleum industry via economic means, Chavez' saber rattling and edicts regarding Venezuelan oil, and the possibility that they can maintain this situation through 2008.
The ability to relax demand lies with the Chinese, who are part of the new demand equation, the ability to reduce or even crash energy prices lies there, too, by withdrawing significant portions of that demand. The Russians, if they get on the stick, have the resources to glut supplies, were they effectively in production.
Timing is key in everything, but doing so after some posturing action by a Democrat would make it appear that the Democrat's policy had some magical effect when it was meaningless, and establish in political energy groupthink that there was some (possibly even harmful) action which could be taken to bring energy prices down.
We are in what has become known as 'total warfare', often asymetric, non-military, and economic, in which our enemies will weaken us by any means available.
The Islamists, while seeking their own agenda, are merely a tool of the agenda of that developing Socialist World Order.
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