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Arrests made in Duke lacrosse case
News & Observer ^ | Apr 18, 2006 | Anne Blythe and Benjamin Niolet

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret

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To: OldFriend

"You are an idiot with an ax to grind. Take it elsewhere."

That's quite a nice comment. It shows your intelligence.

By the way, pal, I KNOW Del Barton and most, or a good many, of their students come from very affluent homes in very affluent communities.

And the average blue-collar worker has a hard time in some communities getting the scratch together to send their kids to ANY private school, public or private, so they wind up in poorly run and poorly taught public schools.


761 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
In the early years of the colonies, after Charleston, the largest port of entry for slaves was New York.

Some of the oldest fortunes in New York and Boston were based on the slave trade, for instance, the Delano family of which Franklin Roosevelt was descended on his mother's side. Downstate New York and New Jersey had extensive slavery, with some areas rivaling the Tidewater South in the use of slaves in agriculture and commerce. These two states were also the last in the North to abolish slavery, with there still being a few dozen slaves in New Jersey at the time shots were fired on Fort Sumter.

However, the grievances of blacks about past mistreatment by whites have no tie as to whether the slave ship owner or the plantation owner was a Yankee or a Southerner. Whether some white is a descendant of slave ship owners or plantation owners or not is less relevant than the fact that, in the perception of many blacks, they have "white skin privilege" and benefit from the past abuses of whites.

The bottom line is that perception, rather than reality, is what matters to many people, including many blacks.

762 posted on 04/18/2006 8:55:56 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: ZULU
"The witness who came forward was described as black and so was the victim."

Show me where it says the other stripper was black.
763 posted on 04/18/2006 8:56:29 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: mariabush

"Hey! I live in the South and I do not understand the atmosphere surrounding this situation!"

Be careful! Saying something like that around here gets you branded as a racist.


764 posted on 04/18/2006 8:56:35 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: notigar
Ask yourself why after she left, one of them emailed "let's get some more hookers and skin them."

The answer is: because they were sending quotes from "Ameican Psycho", a movie about a guy who kills a prostitute, back and forth.

765 posted on 04/18/2006 8:56:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ladyjane
I am surprised by the number of people on FR who dislike anyone who they think has more money than they do.

It's amazing, isn't it?

What is wrong with families trying to do the best they can do for their children.

766 posted on 04/18/2006 8:57:09 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: mariabush

From your posts it's clear there is a lot you don't understand about life in general.


767 posted on 04/18/2006 8:57:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: mtbrandon49
Show me where it says the other stripper was black.

Numerous articles mention that both strippers were black. What makes you think that the other stripper was white?

768 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:12 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: ZULU

Yes, she is an admitted prostitute. Again, thanks for knowing key details. No, that doesn't make it right for her to be raped.

I didn't say it ruled out intercourse. Must have been someone else. I just find it interesting that she was supposedly gang raped yet they find, oh yeah, NOTHING.


769 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:16 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: LK44-40
I have heard Rita twice this morning repeat that the DNA reports that came back were "inconclusive."

I heard that too and interpreted it as complete SPIN (AKA lie). She has to know that there was NO DNA evidence found at all.

Words are these people's stock in trade. They know what they mean. The pure newsreaders maybe not, but the investigative types like Rita certainly do.

770 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:22 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: ZULU

If you knew Del Barton you would also know it's Delbarton.......get lost, pal!


771 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:35 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Howlin

"14th."


OK. I was one day off. Some others were asking about DST, and the timestamps.

All I was saying that DST has no bearing whatsoever in this case.


772 posted on 04/18/2006 8:58:58 AM PDT by old_sage_says ("Man does not live by his words alone, despite the fact that he sometimes has to eat them" A S)
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To: LWalk18

Just call me slow. I need a link please.


773 posted on 04/18/2006 8:59:09 AM PDT by mtbrandon49
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To: jiggyboy

Have you seen the Time magazine article that says the police may have conducted a sting operation and sent that e-mail?

And I think it was Dan Abrams (but am not positive) who said the student who presumably sent the e-mail was in class at the time the e-mail was sent.


774 posted on 04/18/2006 8:59:32 AM PDT by Peach
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To: GAgal

Ten years!


775 posted on 04/18/2006 8:59:36 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Herodian
The reason is that the rape kit obviously found DNA on this stripper.

Show a me link. You're just making this up.

776 posted on 04/18/2006 8:59:57 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ZULU

Let me tell you something- I grew up on Long Island, I am 42 years old. By the time I left high school, we did not have a football team, we had a LACROSS TEAM. My parents scrimped and saved to send my brother to Catholic school where he excelled in Lacross, almost the ENTIRE TEAM received scholarships to Division 1 schools. My brothers friends as well as siblings of my friends received scholarships as well to schools such as Ohio State, Delaware, John Hopkins, Maryland, West Point I could go on. I DID NOT GROW UP WITH A SILVER SPOON IN MY MOUTH, NOR DID ANY OF THE PEOPLE I KNEW THAT GOT SCHOLARSHIPS. I have family and friend that STILL live up there and lacross is the sport to play.


777 posted on 04/18/2006 9:00:04 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: cdga5for4

Certain classes of people are drawn to certain sports because its trendy for their class. Its part of social statement as much as a sport. Like throwing axes at a lumberjack competition or foxhunting.

Do you have to be rich to foxhunt? I doubt it. But I doubt if the average joe who can afford a horse and riding habit would feel very welcomed at a foxhunt hosted by the better people.


778 posted on 04/18/2006 9:00:05 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ladyjane

It's jealousy. Whenever I see freepers putting down those with money, I think of them posting away from their little trailor.


779 posted on 04/18/2006 9:00:19 AM PDT by Peach
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To: ZULU
By the way, pal, I KNOW Del Barton

Apparently not well enough to know it's one word.

Your class envy is showing.

780 posted on 04/18/2006 9:01:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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