Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
Thats the whole thing, they're saying there was no DNA under the fingernails. But according to Wendy Murphy, thats the proof that a rape occured.
Did she violently attack another person?
Did you mean to write that to me? I'm sorry I don't get the reference.
GHB leaves a person without memory of what happened. So how could she identify two accusers?
And why was she smiling and laughing and talking on her cell phone at 12:30? She was only in the house for 35 minutes for goodness sakes.
Have you looked at the timeline? Why don't you do that.
>Prosecutors proved rape cases without DNA for centuries
Rape and murder convictions are being overturned on appeal, using new DNA methods on the evidence, all over this country.
"Ahem. Condoms themselves leave trace evidence and none was found on the accuser. None. No DNA from the boys. No hair. No skin under her fingernails, although she says she fought them off."
I had not seen that report - do you happen to have a link? Is it the medical report or the police forensics report that says none of this was found?
None that we know of, anyway. Neither you nor I know whether any was actually found, or why a DNA test was run. The media is not likely to have exhaustive knowledge of all the evidence that will be produced at trial.
I'm not saying that I believe the rape allegations. I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. Nor does anyone else, since almost all the information we have comes from the defense and this information may or may not be accurate. We should withhold judgment until we know what the jurors at trial know - and I'm inclined to show deference to the grand jury's determination that there is reason to believe a crime had been committed.
It proves nothing except that you're just trolling here.
Maria, I agree with you entirely that these young men behaved totally like trash and that its symptomatic of an athlete entitlement, you can't touch me, culture that is all too prevalent at schools like Duke. It would be hell to live next door to them and I doubt that the bulk of them ever gave a tinker's damn about their neighbors or how their behavior hurt or impacted anyone outside their circle. That said, its a long way from acting like boorish, rude and noxious simpletons (which probably characterized the daily lifestyle of a lot of the lacrosse players) to substantiating charges of gang-rape based on what looks to me to be VERY skimpy evidence and a D.A. who is running for reelection while pandering to his potential voters.
Where did you read that the pills found were from the accuser's purse? I don't see that on the search warrant, only that they recovered "pills". There was no indication of what they were or who they belonged to.
The IRS did it to me yesterday.
RE: "I cannot stress that any more. Nothing happened that night."
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What has hit these boys is as random as the drunk driver that hit the son of a friend of mine. He was on spring break, minding his own business, looking forward to graduation from university, and receiving his commission in the USArmy. Now he is in hospital undergoing the fight for his life.
Some people are in a bus that goes over a cliff. A tragedy, also.
Everyone involved in this incident is a victim and has my greatest sympathy.
The DA himself admits that no DNA from any of the players was found in or on her body or clothing. None. Do you want cites for that? Just put Duke in the keyword section of FR and read the articles.
Condoms do leave behind trace evidence, some of which can be used to identify the type of condom used.
http://www.crimeandclues.com/condoms.htm
Actually it was in response to post #203. I have no idea how that happened. Sorry for the confusion, but maybe we are overloading the site.
I'm unfamiliar with the drug you're describing. Is it something that is taken on one's own, ever? Wouldn't there have to be some evidence that she was given it at the party?
Thanks in advance.
Post of the day!
Uh, yes, we do know this. The DA himself has admitted that the DNA tests came back negative.
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